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Originally Posted by Sir Charles

GT5 is the closest to SIM you are gonna get on consoles.

Ok, fair enough. Like I said, its a fantastic game.

Me and you just rate damage and wear at a different level of importance. I think we agree mostly. Ive just heard over and over from race drivers that its all about the tires and keeping the car from blowing up and as clean as possible. Alot of these lower level race cars need to be driven with some tender care because you can flat wear them out. Im just saying thats the part of sim I enjoy the most and I will have trouble containing myself if GT5 includes it. (again though, Im not saying GRID will include all this and that it is even in the sim catagory)

I think Forza is pretty good and I know this will make an uproar but NASCAR includes a crazy in depth tuning system with great wear, too bad it can be boring and not what I want to play much.