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Originally Posted by ScotRacer

Not meaning to bash or anything, but that is most definetely not true. The rumble system has to have an algorithm encoded in the game for it to function, and if the PS3's first party controllers do not feature rumble, why implement it?

This is more of point, than a question but current 360 games are just about, or just over 5Gb in total. Now a DVD-9 disk has 9.4Gb of storage, can you really see games in the next 3 years requiring this extra space, or having to develop better functioning compression techniques?
As for Sony, they are unlikely to use the large capacity (45Gb etc) Blu-ray disks, most likely 15Gb, too keep costs as low as possible.

As for the performance of the PS3, yes Sony has stated gleefully that it has 2 teraflops of floating point performance. Now this is in terms of total arithemetic data processing, which is not key for gaming. Not only this but many sources have claimed that the system is many times more powerful than the Xbox 360. This is an unjustifiable claim, as the performance for which they speak is not relevant to gaming. Now, heat is a major issue (or, displacement of is) with this new generation of gaming. With the current PS3 dev kits overheating, even in a larger casing than the final production model is likely to have. Please, explain to me how they are going to alleviate this problem, as this could be a major downfall of the console. This is further increased by the suspected low chip yields on the Cell.

Trying to justify the PS3's worth, by its other uses it completely irrelevant as its purpose is gaming. The average gamer is not going to think, "Why would I spend an extra £145 ($220) on a PS3?". They are not going to try and justify the purchase (or the parents for that matter) by saying, "ah, but it has added functionality". They then realise they have a home PC with a better interface for all those functions and why need they spend the extra cash on something they already own? Most people don't have HDTV, let alone a 1080p panel, they are not going to be coined into the system by those terms and figures.

Now, these added function aren't even that important anyway. Yes the Wifi internet built-in could be useful, but I don't even have a wireless network in my home (also the lower SKU of the PS3 doesn't even have WiFi built in). As for bluetooth, the 360 also has that, in terms of its controllers and who knows what else they may implement using the tech.
Yes, in theory having all the functionality in one system is great, but not when almost everyone already has a PC for most of this. Yes, no one owns a HD movie player right now, and the PS3 may sell well as one of those but trying to justify it's quite frankly terrible price tag (in the UK, bundles are only being sold in the first few shipments at £545. This is over $1000) is another issue. So, taking that $1000 into account, you could buy a stand-alone better quality HD DVD player which would look better and not have the constant whirring of many fans that the PS3 is likely to have. Then you could buy a 360 for the rest of the functionality with the money that is left over.

I have a comparison, not too far from the same thing as the PS3 vs 360 debate. Look at the DS vs PSP. The PSP is by far the more powerful console with more multimedia capabilities but it is quite comprehensively outsold by the DS (2 to 1 in some cases). This could be down to a number of factors, but I assume that the price has a significant influence in this.

This is not trying to bash the PS3 itself as I would do the same for any other business/economic blunder, but I would like some justification for the quite ridiculous price-tag of the PS3.

your first statement is definately true and it was something i overlooked. but your statement saying that ps3 is just for gamming is untrue. sony have stated that ps3 is i think they call it a computer entertainment system, but if not its something along those lines. and 360 deos not have bluetooth, but instead wifi for their controllers and other stuff. and about the funtionallity being useless that is only your opinion. i could use these features everyday. think about what your saying, i cannot make you desire these features, i am not a sony sales man. i just put them out there. dont complain about features that may not be important to you. i didnt complain when I read about universal remotes and learned that they control your tv but many things on top of that. i just said to myself that the price wasnt justified for me personally. the rason it has those features is so that people who want them can...................well purchase them if they wish.