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Old 01-03-2007, 07:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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For those worried about Playstation 3 Backwards Compatibility you can rest at ease you see

The Playstation 3 is comming with an internet browser which means that new applications, utilites etc can be made and availible for download on your PS3 by Playstation 3 Browser compatible websites that can be made by some clever people out there.

This is what Sony said about p********** Emulation on the Pc they said it could not be done. It happend since someone wrote the program to do it years back and the pc did not have any access to certain chips that the p********** One had.

Give it time folks someone will work out how to program an emulator and compensate for the loss of PS2 hardware thus get the PS3's hardware to load PS2 games on it. In fact id dare say someone will be doing reverse enginering when the PS3 hits and will soon teach the PS3 how to boot PS2 games using its next gen hardware. I know Sony are already doing this but for your old games that wont play the option of downloading and installing a fully working independant secondary emulator would solve that little problem.

There are people out there quite capable of doing this , look at the guy who made bleem for example

Its like playing mega drive games on the PS2 they needed hardware only found on the mega drive yet they have got the PS2 to play them. Once the PS3s internet browser gets working and new updates are made this will quickly become a reality and will ensure endless possibilities.

Now not to be a sony fanboy by all acounts but im quite impressed with its features. Internet acess multimedia functionality plus games like Tekken 6 MGS4 Gran Turismo Vision whos going to say no.

Have a look at the video showing what the machine has built into it. Quite worth while watching.

PlayStation 3 complete interface walkthrough

YouTube - PlayStation 3 complete interface walkthrough

Excelent system there but the cost is a bit pricey but still ill wait till the pre order panic is over and then it will reduce hopefully and wham i strike and get my purchased and home with me. Blue Ray player here i come.

And yep to see the machine being taken appart and whats inside it enjoy the videos below

Part 1

YouTube - PS3 disassembly : Part 1

Part 2

YouTube - PS3 disassembly : Part2

Part 3

YouTube - PS3 disassembly : Part3

Part 4

YouTube - Re: PS3 disassembly : Part4

Kind of amazes me as to what they put in these consoles now a days. Getting like a pc arent they?

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Old 01-03-2007, 07:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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uh... welcome back gaz..
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Old 01-03-2007, 10:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Now not to be a sony fanboy by all acounts but im quite impressed with its features. Internet acess multimedia functionality plus games like Tekken 6 MGS4 Gran Turismo Vision whos going to say no.

Have a look at the video showing what the machine has built into it. Quite worth while watching.

PlayStation 3 complete interface walkthrough

YouTube - PlayStation 3 complete interface walkthrough

Excelent system there but the cost is a bit pricey but still ill wait till the pre order panic is over and then it will reduce hopefully and wham i strike and get my purchased and home with me. Blue Ray player here i come.

And yep to see the machine being taken appart and whats inside it enjoy the videos below

Part 1

YouTube - PS3 disassembly : Part 1

Part 2

YouTube - PS3 disassembly : Part2

Part 3

YouTube - PS3 disassembly : Part3

Part 4

YouTube - Re: PS3 disassembly : Part4

Kind of amazes me as to what they put in these consoles now a days. Getting like a pc arent they?
umm.. i say no.. howabout that?
what i dont understand is.. they are JACKING UP the price in europe for no reason(yet they drop the price in japan.. hmmm), they are even TAKING OUT functionality (the ps2 backwards compatibility) which is a big part of the initial purchase, since there are few games out for the ps3, and it was supposed to scale ps2 games to HD, and only europe has this problem. yes all new ps3's will not have the Emotion chip in it(the ps2 chip), but with 4million already made (1.6mil sold), its gonna be awhile before anyone but the europeans have this lower class ps3. now i dont like sony to start with, but why are they jacking the price up and taking out functionality? Granted they are doing a software emulation compatibility, but they even said it will be just like the 360's.. which is spotty at best when it comes to xbox games.

then again, i dont know why systems are backwards compatible to begin with.. why do you buy a NEW system just to play OLD games.. i sold off everything xbox the week before i got my launch 360 (so i could still get good prices for it) and never looked back. why is backwards compatability even a real issue?? i just get pissed at a policy of "take out functionality, but make em pay more for it!!" crap.. and i dont even live in EU, nor do i want a PS3..
i feel for all you europeans who have to put up with sony's latest practices.

funnier yet.. with the new "Zephyr" release, im sure thats about the same time they will drop prices on the 360, even if its just make the current premium, core priced, drop the core, and make the new 360 premium priced. I am assuming however that ms will drop the price a few bux on top since the new 360 will be made of the smaller NM die chip. so you could be seing a price difference of up to 300 between the 360 and the PS3.. especially in europe. you can buy an HDDVD addon and a few games or movies with that price difference, or just a heck of alot of games!!! Why would you even want a PS3 then besides being a cheap bluray player??? If you can wait 3 or 4 yrs, bluray/HDDVD will probably both have sub $200 players anyways... if not before then. Who cares what hardware it has.. does 99% of the people have the capability to play lossless audio??? probably not.. most people dont even have HDTV's. Not like the PS3 scales games right anyways.. or did they ever fix that.. MAJOR bug?
You really want 2-4 exclusive games to justify 200-300 more in price.. plus the games on top!??! i love games, but are they THAT important to you?? sooner or later you will probably be able to rent 360's and PS3's from blockbuster anyways.. just wait and rent the console and games for a week, save ya 600++ smackers.
some people i just dont understand.
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Old 01-03-2007, 11:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm getting PS3 soon, very soon. It's an excellent machine, no matter what Xbots say!

I have an Xbox 360 and it's great, but I cannot deny the PS3 is simply a great console too. As well as the Wii.
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Old 01-03-2007, 11:54 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'm getting PS3 soon, very soon. It's an excellent machine, no matter what Xbots say!

I have an Xbox 360 and it's great, but I cannot deny the PS3 is simply a great console too. As well as the Wii.


i just dont see the logic in the purchase.
the ps2, though i didnt like it, had alot of logic in the purchase.. it was relatively cheap, had alot of games,had exclusives all over the frikkin place, and did everything it was supposed to.

the ps3 is extremely expencive, is reducing the things it can do, while raising the price in some areas, has no real games comming out for it for a while, and is losing exclusives left and right. its just a cheap bluray player..
ill just wait 3 or 4 yrs to see if bluray really wins or not.. by then players should be sub 200.
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Old 02-03-2007, 01:15 AM   #6 (permalink)
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a bit off the subject, but, i saw a hd/bluray player today at best buy. it was 1200 bucks, but, like remix said, that should be dropping pretty quick. that was the fear of this media war, hd vs bluray, on which player to buy, now consumers don't have to worry (oh, i'm sure there will be some issues).
Like i said, wait for the new, slimmer, ps3.
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Remix, the price hasn't been hiked up over here, it's the same as it was when they announced the prices at E3 2006. We pay alot more for a 360 than you yanks so do try and make Sony look bad for something everyone's doing (the Wii is $300 here aswell).

We pay around $600 for the Premium 360 in the UK, whilst you pay $400. We pay $800 for the 60Gb PS3 whilst you pay $600. It works out the same

Oh and Gaz, use the edit button in future. I've edited your OP.
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PoS3 sucks, end of story. I can't believe people actually LIKE getting lied to by $ony. The system...suck. The library of games.....sucks. WTF is so good about a $600 paper weight?
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Oh dear...we have a Xbot in our midst. Too bad I can't get rid of them since we're on a Xbox 360 site

The system: More powerful than Xbox 360, better built, looks better, more functionality, HDMI, more reliable. Yes, it really sucks
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Most of the people hating the PS3 are not qualified to do so. Surely a person should own one for a while before making such blase comments. I'm gonna get one and if its trash then its trash and I will be honest when I post my opinions on the PS3. Im taking a risk with my cash but meh you only live once.

As for backward compatibility, as Remix pointed out why buy a next gen console to play last gen games? I too got rid of my xbox and games. I cant see the attraction of last gen now. I kept KOTOR: II but it looks awful.
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I think that the PS3 is really good. It's a great deal. Where else can you find a blu-ray player for $600?
Problems are:
I don't think the Blu-ray format will fair as well as some might hope. I think that HDDVD is a better format and will win this little war.
Out of all of the features it has, for some reason it left out IR. Why?
The interface is pretty bleh.
Some of the built in features such as the web browser need work.
Not much of a selection of games yet, though I'm sure that'll change.
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The system: More powerful than Xbox 360, better built, looks better, more functionality, HDMI, more reliable. Yes, it really sucks
scotracer i think the xbox360 has better functionality than the ps3. It can do a hell of a lot more and i own both systems
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:00 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Looks better? Uhh... No...

More functionality? Do explain that...

More reliable? Big words from someone who doesn't even own the machine...
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Looks better? Uhh... No...

More functionality? Do explain that...

More reliable? Big words from someone who doesn't even own the machine...
he never said more reliable just more functionality
and i agree

the ps3 doesnt have DL movie and tv content, doesnt have IPTV coming to it. the pissy3 doesnt have the ability to function as a DVR. Its online is a hackjob compared to the 360. most of the games it gets will always be ports from the 360 (much easier to prog for) and many seem to be missing the 360's online functions.. so your paying the same or more for a ps3 game, which is a stripped down version of a 360 game.. so far the ports have left something to be desired in graphix too. why do the games look blurry on the ps3??
i dont understand why you would pay 200 more than a 360, just to get a 360 game with less functionality. i dont understand why you buy a game system and have a big part of it, to be a movie machine. yes its cheaper, but when you use it more for its BR playback than the games, there is something wrong.


i know it might just be me.. but its not even about sony vs ms anymore.. it just doesnt make sence to me to buy one. yea, theres some big exclusives LEFT on the ps3.. but whats the point of paying more for a system, for 2 or 3 exclusives anyways? are they really that big of a deal??
personally, i was never a fan of MGS, and the FF franchise is lookin tired lately. GT5 is lookin so good, they keep using 360 pics of PGR3... hmm...

well, whatever, thats my 2 cents
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Old 02-03-2007, 10:34 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Looks better? Uhh... No...

More functionality? Do explain that...

More reliable? Big words from someone who doesn't even own the machine...
Looks are a matter of opinion but the Xbox 360 looks like a plastic toy whereas I could put my PS3 next to my HDTV and have pride in the way it looks.

Functionality

Xbox 360 - CD player, DVD player (upscaling via VGA), Downloadable content, Media Center Extender

PS3 - CD player, Super Audio CD player, DVD player, Blu-ray player, Multicard reader, Downloadable content, Wifi built in, Stream Content to your PSP to watch around the world.

That's just a few for each but the PS3 has more.

When was the last time you heard of a PS3 breaking down? The Xbox 360's reliability is AWFUL. You've had to send a 360 away (twice, if I'm not mistaken) and I've had to send back one. Terrible.
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I think the whole thing is a bit to early to even compare. Each has its good and bad, but both can be enjoyed. For me it is not a question of what one is better now, but a year from now. And we just don't have enough info to make that prediction yet.

So for now I have both, I enjoy both. But most of all I am excited to see what each one does over the next year and beyond.
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^^ as above. For me right now the 360 wins hands down. Thats just my personal opinion though based on using both of them. I have a 360 and think live is great, and the games i have i totally enjoy. The games i have played on ps3 are good also, great graphics, great for multiplayer. However the times i have tried to go online have been awful, just didnt seem to work as well as it should at this stage, maybe that was just bad luck though.

The other gripe about the PS3 is that the games i did play on it had that "rushed for next gen" feel about them, much like the 360 went through. Eg. the NHL game i played had no commentary, and limited game modes compared to the 360 version. Again this will improve over time of course.

The PS3 is new though, and the number of titles available kind of support that. But hey give the ps3 time and im sure it will be good. At this point in time though i cant see the justification in paying more money to get a ps3, apart from getting ready for the possibility that it will turn into a better console.

About the looks thing, i prefer the 360 myself in this department also, but again thats just personal preference.
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