Omg The Revolutions Graphics Card Has 600mhz - Page 2

bennyboo03 · 21-07-2005, 06:56 PM

ahhh true, but i heard that u will also be able to download

MH_prophet · 21-07-2005, 07:06 PM

Nope, cause A. There wouldn't be any point in downloading when it can read the discs. B. It would take too much space, and C. They already announced the downloads would be for NES-N64.

bennyboo03 · 21-07-2005, 07:08 PM

damn magazines. they guess to much. thx a million MH

Blank · 22-07-2005, 04:49 AM

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Exactly, that is why I'm (most likely) not getting a PS3.

Who needs a PS3 when you can have the 360 and Rev?

bennyboo03 · 22-07-2005, 06:27 AM

yea and ps3 doesnt even have a good online.so overall,360 doesnt just have almost all of ps3 things, it also has skins and marketplace and better online etc. i could go on fr days wat xbox 360 has that ps3 doesnt

Grindstone · 22-07-2005, 10:23 AM

Granted, at this point Xbox 360 looks like the most impressive contestant, but never count out the competition until all the cards are on the table.

If Nintendo is considering launching their console in Q3 of `06 with a 600Mhz GPU, I do not think it will make much of a difference. Forcing their fans to wait that long with be dangerous, as it did not help them in the last console war, and I sincerely doubt the patience of the fans will hold out meanwhile Xbox 360 and PS3 fans are having a hayday with their new toys. I see most people buying the Rev. only as a secondary console, not their primary system.

At this point, however, I see Nintendo as being forced to launch their system with a 600Mhz GPU, because launching a gaming system with anything less, in Q3 of `06 will be too inferior and not potentially strong enough to go up against what M$ and Sony are offering. Sure, it has its exclusive titles, but nothing we have not already seen. And if the graphics are not that great, why get this machine? [Yes, game play is important, but graphics are a very close second.] Consider this, great game play and great graphics on the other two consoles, for Nintendo, sub-par graphics, great game play. Which would you prefer? I would rather pay $300 for an Xbox 360 than a lesser machine at $200. Quality is important, which is why I believe that Nintendo will do the 600Mhz GPU, just to stay on par in the gaming industry.

Okay, sorry, rant over.

CaveMan · 22-07-2005, 02:24 PM

No mater what they say some thing that small can not have what it takes to go agents the ps3 much less the xbox360. There is a reason for ps3 and xbox360s size. they had to make them that big for the new GPU and CPUs and for every thing ells in side. And the revolution, in a case that small, to muck heat is a big problem. There isn’t enough room for a reliable cooling system.
And just because its 600 MHz doesn’t mean it has the system bandwidth or CPU powerful. the 600MHZ is not the factor.

bennyboo03 · 22-07-2005, 02:28 PM

u have a good point

Grumpy Old Fart · 22-07-2005, 02:49 PM

I'm not a techie person so I don't really understand all the jargon regarding the specs. However I came across this article on a Nintendo forum (N-Philes I think) regarding ATI's view on the graphics chip they are producing for the Revolution...

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Fresh off our trip to New York City to the Digital Life Press Preview event, we have come back with some important news for Nintendo fans concerning Nintendo's next console currently code-named the Revolution. There has been much speculation about the console's graphics, and how "next-generation" the games will be. Satoru Iwata has promised that the game's will "wow" consumers, but we just don't know how the games are going to look.

Well, at the Digital Life Press Preview event, we spoke with ATI, the developer and producer of the Revolution's graphics chip currently known as the "Hollywood". According to the ATI representative we spoke with, the Hollywood graphics chip is more powerful that the GameCube's graphics chip, but not on par with that of the Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3. At the time of the event, the ATI representative was not able to elaborate on any specs or any other information on the Revolution. We were only told not to expect the same graphical quality that the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 will offer.

Knowing that however we are not sure how much of a differenece there will be between the Revolution, Xbox 360, and PlayStation 3's graphics. There has been much speculation as to how the Revolution's graphics will look, and much speculation about that Metroid Prime 3 demo shown at E3 2005, which we can tell you was built on the GameCube hardware, not that of the Revolution. At this time we would speculate that the difference in the graphic power of the Revolution and the Xbox 360 will be comparible to that of the difference between the GameCube and the Xbox. It is also to be noted that pure specs and technical power do not alone make up a console or it's performance.

We could speculate further, but we are just going to have to wait for Nintendo to come out and show us the Revolution, it's graphical power, and what sort of gameplay "revolution" the machine will offer. We have spoken with ATI and brought back what little information is available, and at this point you are just going to have to wait for more information directly from Nintendo.

Regarding cooling, could they use water cooling or would that need more space than a standard fan. Again I'm not a techie person so I'm really just guessing and throwing things in that I've heard.

Grindstone · 22-07-2005, 03:04 PM

Well, I was giving Nintendo more credit than Sony in that I wasn't expecting Nintendo to "bottle-neck" the CPU-GPU with lacking bandwidth. If Nintendo doesn't do that, then the 600Mhz will be a challenger if coupled with 512Mg of RAM. But, since we do not have anything official from Nintendo on the Revolution's architecture, I guess our speculations aren't worth much at this point.

Edit: Well, this is what I get for hitting "reply" starting a post, then going off to lunch and finishing it after doing some work.

So, we now have an article which states that the Revolution will not be on par with the other consoles. Plus, it has no where near the capabilities of the other consoles. Oh boy, looks like our roots is planning a slow painful death for itself. Can Mario keep it alive?

citizen X · 23-07-2005, 09:40 PM

I’m sorry, but no matter how hard you wont the revolution to look as good as the ps3 or 360, it wont, that’s a fact. The system is just too small like I said, if MS or Sony had a way to keep it small they would have. More power means more heat, there’s no way around that. The liquid cooling system on the 360 is almost as big as the revelation itself.

I’ll say it will have good graphics better then the Xbox, but there will be big differences between revolution and the other systems.

This is what I think was going through Nintendo’s head, they were in last place this gen. so they said to save money we’ll go a different direction, we’ll make the system small and make it for bringing back the old games, wile still making good looking new games, because They new that they couldn’t get in 1st or 2nd this time.

Grindstone · 25-07-2005, 12:00 PM

Perhaps, but will they be around next time for 3rd place as well? If they continue this method, I am inclined to say that they should focus on handhelds and license out their gaming titles to M$ and Sony. On one hand, I do think it is cool that all 20,000 games titles from previous consoles will be available for download (with a fee) on the Revolution. On the other hand, I honestly have not played any of those 20,000 games since they first came out. But, this may be the saving grace for the Nintendo Revolution. I've already heard people talking about playing Chronotrigger again.

pApA SmerF01 · 25-07-2005, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Grindstone

Perhaps, but will they be around next time for 3rd place as well? If they continue this method, I am inclined to say that they should focus on handhelds and license out their gaming titles to M$ and Sony. On one hand, I do think it is cool that all 20,000 games titles from previous consoles will be available for download (with a fee) on the Revolution. On the other hand, I honestly have not played any of those 20,000 games since they first came out. But, this may be the saving grace for the Nintendo Revolution. I've already heard people talking about playing Chronotrigger again.

the beautiful thing for nintendo is that they don't have to be #1 to make money. the gamecube brought in more net profit than any other console, and it was in last place. i suspect the same will be true for the rev.

citizen X · 25-07-2005, 06:09 PM

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the beautiful thing for nintendo is that they don't have to be #1 to make money. the gamecube brought in more net profit than any other console, and it was in last place. i suspect the same will be true for the rev.

Absolutely rite they don't need to be 1# or 2#, to make mony.

If it’s cheap enough, and good enough of a product. U makes money every time you sell the system alone, plus all of the extra stuff.

pApA SmerF01 · 26-07-2005, 02:29 PM

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Absolutely rite they don't need to be 1# or 2#, to make mony.

If it’s cheap enough, and good enough of a product. U makes money every time you sell the system alone, plus all of the extra stuff.

that's why gc made so much money. nintendo is no longer in it for the hardware race. they're there for the people who just want average games for a cheap, but reasonable console.

that's why nintendo will probably never go away, but it'll never regain the lion-share of the market.

Man Whore · 26-07-2005, 05:06 PM

The fact you could download all the old Nintendo games is a big factor. That's going to draw all the old school gamers.I can't guess how many people I talk to that say , man I wish i could play the old Mario or, back in my day I use to play Contra, or they would say, man I can't handle these games today

pApA SmerF01 · 27-07-2005, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Man Whore

The fact you could download all the old Nintendo games is a big factor. That's going to draw all the old school gamers.I can't guess how many people I talk to that say , man I wish i could play the old Mario or, back in my day I use to play Contra, or they would say, man I can't handle these games today

my mother always talks about burger time....lol