Grid

[Boost King]

Yo,

Being the car buff that I am, I heard recently about Codemasters latest game they are working on, which is close to being released. Its called Grid. Just wondering if any one has heard much about it.

Seems to not be getting much hype at the moment. Seems GTA4 is stealing all the thunder.

I downloaded the trailer and saw some clips on a web site, it looked amazing to be honest.

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[Sir Charles]

It looks good, but the general consensus of opinion is that it will be an arcade affair - which made me lose a bit of interest to be honest. I want a demo.

[Scotracer]

Grid will follow in DiRT's arcade roots...therefore, FAIL.

[Blasterpez]

Is this game to be more like burnout type, and less sim type? personally, i don't like sim racing to much, i'm not good enough so i crash all the time, so i usually dig the arcady type racing games...i crash a bit less.

[psuedohippy]

OOoops, I didnt see this thread and made another with the same name. They can delete mine, I hope. Yeah, I am waiting with baited breath for this one. And btw, in my opinion, DIRT was fantastic fun!!!!! Only thing missing was good multi-player where it needed it and GRID will have 15 car online races. Im stoked because all I care about is fun and not just sim!!

GT5p is a joke to me as a sim anyhow until it gets full damage, which is coming and will make that game great. Until then WTF is all I can say when I see a crash in that game. Im sure GT5 will cause me to purchase a PS3 finally (been ready to buy one forever but waiting for a reason, any at all).

Oh, BTW, demo is reported to be here May 5 or 6, whenever they normally come out!

[Sir Charles]

GT5p is a joke to me as a sim anyhow until it gets full damage, which is coming and will make that game great. Until then WTF is all I can say when I see a crash in that game.

It makes me laugh the amount of people who slate GT5 because of lack of damage. Its a RACING sim, not a CRASHING sim. If you want damage in GT5, the race will end as soon as you crash - which is what happens in real life. Not like in games where you can still finish 1st with only one wheel still on.

GT5 is where its at. Believe.

[friedkarma]

It makes me laugh the amount of people who slate GT5 because of lack of damage. Its a RACING sim, not a CRASHING sim. If you want damage in GT5, the race will end as soon as you crash - which is what happens in real life. Not like in games where you can still finish 1st with only one wheel still on.

GT5 is where its at. Believe.

Sorry to disagree but damage, wear and part failure happen in every race. If you're going to label your game a "sim" then there had better be damage modeling. If nothing else it will help keep the 12 year old online twits in check.

[Scotracer]

Console games are consoles games. PC sims are sims.

It's quite funny how a PC game from 4 years ago has:

Very sophisticated physics system (better than any console "sim")
Full damage modeling
Component wear and failure
Tyre grip temperature dependent and overheating possible
Full race strategy
Full race weekend (free practice, qualifying, race)
Races as long as you want them to be
Infinite cars on track (I've ran 150 cars but after that I hit my bottleneck - RAM)
Full setup changes (everything up to brake disc thickness, radiator size, engine braking mapping etc)
Number of cars: >2000 (mods)
Number of tracks: 450 (on one website alone)
Everything from F1, to Racing Supertrucks to go-karts to Citroen Berlingo racing

...and all for £17.99 (all mods are free and so is online)

rFactor FTW ^_^

[XabiTorres]

Grid will follow in DiRT's arcade roots...therefore, FAIL.WTF? Dirt was great the only thing wrong with it was travis pastrana

[Scotracer]

WTF? Dirt was great the only thing wrong with it was travis pastrana

DiRT had one of the worst handling engines of a racing game I've played in a long time. It was horrid and a disgrace to the late Colin McRae. RIP :(

[friedkarma]

DiRT was a hell of a lot of fun. There's nothing wrong with arcade style racers, especially on a console where you just want to pick up and play.

[psuedohippy]

Sir Charles said: If you want damage in GT5, the race will end as soon as you crash - which is what happens in real life.

Exactly, dont crash. Try that game and dont crash, you will go slower, you'll post a real time, the same as you should get. Even then there is no wear. Its just not sim but there damage system is coming and Im stoked. You will have to stay off the walls and other cars if you want to win. And trust me on this one, you wont be able to win with 1 wheel gone in GRID. Codemasters has never allowed that.

I had many hours of fun in DIRT, but Karma, could you imagine the fun online with buddies racing those staduim trucks or buggys. Hell, any of the multi-car races included in that game with friends would have been a rukos good time.

AMEN to Sotracer, where the heck is my console sim. I love sim even though I also love to have a good time racing a semi arcade racer that does so well with pack racing and includes fantastic AI that battles. LOVE IT LOL. I miss the original TOCA though.

[Sir Charles]

GT5 is the closest to SIM you are gonna get on consoles.

[psuedohippy]

GT5 is the closest to SIM you are gonna get on consoles.

Ok, fair enough. Like I said, its a fantastic game. :shakehand

Me and you just rate damage and wear at a different level of importance. I think we agree mostly. Ive just heard over and over from race drivers that its all about the tires and keeping the car from blowing up and as clean as possible. Alot of these lower level race cars need to be driven with some tender care because you can flat wear them out. Im just saying thats the part of sim I enjoy the most and I will have trouble containing myself if GT5 includes it. (again though, Im not saying GRID will include all this and that it is even in the sim catagory)

I think Forza is pretty good and I know this will make an uproar but NASCAR includes a crazy in depth tuning system with great wear, too bad it can be boring and not what I want to play much.

[Sir Charles]

I agree that damage/wear is important but what you have to remember is that GT5 P is just a taster of what the full game will be. But with driving physics the like that GT5 has, its not essential for my enjoyment. I very rarely crash anyway.

I agree that NASCAR is boring. I'd rather play pimp my ride than NASCAR, at least you have corners.

Forza 2 was a great game but it had no depth, I got bored of it very quickly. That game desperately needed more tracks to race on.

[XabiTorres]

It takes many generations of inbreeding to make a good NASCAR driver

I really hate sims they are so boring. Driving a Fiat panda around for a few hours til you get enough cash for something decent is just not fun

[Scotracer]

It takes many generations of inbreeding to make a good NASCAR driver

I really hate sims they are so boring. Driving a Fiat panda around for a few hours til you get enough cash for something decent is just not fun

Being a simulation has nothing to do with starting with limited funds and crappy cars...

[IIJoshIII]

GRID looks more on the arcade side for me. I'll stick with FM2!

[psuedohippy]

I agree that damage/wear is important but what you have to remember is that GT5 P is just a taster of what the full game will be. But with driving physics the like that GT5 has, its not essential for my enjoyment. I very rarely crash anyway.

I agree that NASCAR is boring. I'd rather play pimp my ride than NASCAR, at least you have corners.

Forza 2 was a great game but it had no depth, I got bored of it very quickly. That game desperately needed more tracks to race on.

I agree on every single point. I just dont have a PS3 yet, I do have a PC and a 360 and have enough racers to keep me going until GT5 the full version arrives.

+1 to what Scotracer said.

Josh, just give the demo a try, you might have fun. Expect the demo next week, at least thats the rumor.

Oh, and if you dont have a FFB wheel then forget anything Ive ever said lol.

[IIJoshIII]

I'll definitely try it, regardless of my opinions. Of course I have the FFB wheel :D What's the point in racing without one:questionm

[Scotracer]

The demo is out on the PSN store too. I'll try it on PS3 since I gots my G25 ^_^

[psuedohippy]

This one is going to destroy this for you G25 boys, but I dont thing the gated shifter is not supported, just the tiptronic sequential. I know after I get my G25 I will be spoiled and it would almost destroy it for me.

[Scotracer]

The demo is up, btw lads. I'm downloading now. I was going to wait to try the PS3 version but I wont be getting my PS3 back for some time.

It's 795Mb.

[psuedohippy]

I got mine Downloaded just in time to head out for work and take a few brakes to read about it. I heard before the demo was out the the Hshifter works but the clutch doesnt. Im wondering how it really is?

How long before you post your review Scot, I have a feeling it wont be good at all. lol

[XabiTorres]

take a few brakes to read about it.Was that a pun or just bad spelling?

[psuedohippy]

LOL, I aint sayin. So did you play the dang game yet or what. Im still at work taking my last *brake, I was hoping someone would have a comment by now lol.

Scotracer, did you see that you can win a BMW if you post a fast enough time. Then you will be invited to a party in where you will have to win a live race to get the car. I hope you could pull it off.

For Americans its the same thing only you can win the Ebay Mustang.

[Scotracer]

There's two reasons why I won't be winning it:

1) I don't like the handling so the chances of me being the fastest with it are slim

2) I don't want to play the demo long enough to be that good to win

[Boost King]

GT5 is the closest to SIM you are gonna get on consoles.

I'd beg to differ, Forza 2 in my opinion is a better Sim.

But, thats just a opinion.

[Boost King]

PS I tried this demo. If you've played Dirt, it handles like Dirt, I mean the game, of course. ;)

I dont like the controls. Graphics were ok, damage is good. Sense of speed is there. I just feel like the cars (especially for drift mode) are too out of control.

I'll still pick it up, with time, I'll be better at the controls. Its definately worth the check out.

Boost

[axeman2008]

[quote=Scotracer It's 795Mb.[/quote]

I downloaded it last night and it said it was 928mb. i've yet to play it though.

[Sir Charles]

I'd beg to differ, Forza 2 in my opinion is a better Sim.

But, thats just a opinion.

Have you played GT5 with the G25 setup?

[Scotracer]

I'd beg to differ, Forza 2 in my opinion is a better Sim.

But, thats just a opinion.

Well you haven't played GT5P yet, Boosty :) We had this conversation over Live chat the other day and you said you'd played GTHD...well, GT5P is a big step up from HD in all respects. It is better than Forza.

[XabiTorres]

Does GRID run on the same engines as Dirt? because as boost said it feels really like Dirt, fun tho

[psuedohippy]

Yes, both use Ego (for breakfast? lol). The new Formula One game will use the same.

I admit Im a bit disapointed that grip racing cant keep up with sliding all over the place. In GRID, out of controll sliding/ebraking is the fastest route. Thank goodness for the fantastic damage that puts this is check a bit.

I did play the demo with two of my non racing buddies, tiger woods friends actually, and we had a total blast.

[XabiTorres]

Yes, both use Ego (for breakfast? lol). The new Formula One game will use the same.

I admit Im a bit disapointed that grip racing cant keep up with sliding all over the place. In GRID, out of controll sliding/ebraking is the fastest route. Thank goodness for the fantastic damage that puts this is check a bit.

I did play the demo with two of my non racing buddies, tiger woods friends actually, and we had a total blast.I thought Dirt used the NEON engine?

[Boost King]

Have you played GT5 with the G25 setup?

Hi,

Yes, I played the GT demo in the store on the PS3, just with the normal controller. I did find the controls quite quirky, but thats appararntly normal with the PS3 analog sticks. The 360's just feel tigher and or stiffer.

I haven't tried the wheel set up, I tried the MS wheel but cant handle using wheels in games, its just faster to waggle your thumb left and right quciker than moving the steering wheel.

I think personally it comes down to the fact I've spent allot of time on Forza 2 and thats kind of shaped my expectation. I should give GT5 a better chance to prove itself.

Maybe Scott, I'll scoot by your place and or charles place next time I am in town and we'll have a go at this game. I'd certainly like to try the set up Charles has as well too.

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[Boost King]

Well I've played more of this demo and to be honest, I just cant come to terms with the damm controls scheme. Its terrible. The car handles like Dirt. Even Dirt wasn't this bad.

I had such high expectations for this game. It looks great, sounds great, but dam it, if that controller doesn't feel right, its game over.

[Sir Charles]

Agreed, GRID is a pile of wank.

[shane32Eire]

This game looks class, its like a mix between gt5 and motorstorm ill be picking it up

[axeman2008]

Played the demo last night,nothing that good about it really just another racing game.

[nufan]

I really hate sims they are so boring. Driving a Fiat panda around for a few hours til you get enough cash for something decent is just not fun

you nailed it right there, 100% correct

thing with gt5 is all you do is race into a corner and hit the wall/another car to straighten yourself and hardly lose any speed. No damage is pathetic enough but that glitch pretty much ruins the game single handidly

[XabiTorres]

IGN have reviewed it. They gave it a real good score too 8.7

IGN: Grid Review (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/876/876137p1.html)

[FuriousThor]

I love this game as do most of the friends I play with on live. None of us can wait for the 4th of June to play the full version. And yes I am talking about Grid and its great demo.

[friedkarma]

I love this game as do most of the friends I play with on live. None of us can wait for the 4th of June to play the full version. And yes I am talking about Grid and its great demo.

The demo seemed alright to me, but with several games on my agenda this summer, I'll probably end up taking a pass.

[mistercrow]

I downloaded the demo on live and it was awesome. Pretty nice graphics too.

[Blasterpez]

I downloaded the demo on live and it was awesome. Pretty nice graphics too.

first, that is a sweet avatar. sweet.

second, is the demo on live? i'll have to check it.

[Sir Charles]

My understanding is that its out on the 30th May. I'm also down to review it. Quite looking forward to it to be quite honest.

[Boost King]

I played it a bit on the weekend again. It seems to be growing on me once I get over the pissy controls. Its just extremely sensitive. I also downloaded the PC version and it looks ace, trouble is, the PC version has no sound on my PC for some reason, and I cant be blown trying to work it out! But it looked sweet.
I also used my 360 controller on the PC as well, so controls were just as jerky as 360 version.

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[Sir Charles]

Well the handling is appauling from the demo so I hope that the full game has some sort of saving grace. The graphics are great.

[oli]

Well the handling is appauling from the demo so I hope that the full game has some sort of saving grace. The graphics are great.

QFT. I cant see myself picking this up to be honest.

[XabiTorres]

That Japanese drifting **** in the demo is shocking bad I hope there isnt too much of it in the full game

[Scotracer]

I played it on PS3 with my G25 and I have to say it's better than the 360 version but it's still GASH.

Oh and the 360 version looks slightly better than the PS3 version (more AA) but the differences are slim.

[Nanakison]

you nailed it right there, 100% correct

thing with gt5 is all you do is race into a corner and hit the wall/another car to straighten yourself and hardly lose any speed. No damage is pathetic enough but that glitch pretty much ruins the game single handidly

Yea I completely agree. How can you claim your game is a sim and have such game-breaking physics bugs like that?

[red123red]

heres a little about it anyone had the demo yet and if so what you think?

- It doesn't take a genius to realise that you are a trojan spammer that is in some way affiliated with that site. There is several occasions where you have posted about it and you have the link in your sig - please can you remove it.

Sir Charles

[mistercrow]

first, that is a sweet avatar. sweet.

second, is the demo on live? i'll have to check it.

Thanks. And yes you can download the demo on live right now.

[Blasterpez]

Downloaded this puppy last night, with a slew of other demos (i haven't had any auto DL's from the arcade in a while...), so i gots to check it tonight, yo.

[Sir Charles]

One major problem with GRID, is there is only 45 cars...WTF? That means less cars than the so-called demo that is GT5: Prologue.

Also I've just been doing drifting trials on the GRID demo, and its hideious.

Things are not looking good.

[Boost King]

Is it just me but I can only get 200,000 points in drift, and the computer gets like 700,000???

WTF???

Boost

[mistercrow]

Is it just me but I can only get 200,000 points in drift, and the computer gets like 700,000???

WTF???

Boost

LOL I noticed that too. I thought I had done really good until I saw the CPU with 700,000. I'm like Oh snap!!!

[ketch1]

Well i have tried the demo and i like it but i am still a Forza man the physics in Forza cannot be matched yet .Yes GRID feels a lot like dirt, arcady but looks stunning and i did enjoy racing the streets of san francisco like so many similar games out there at the moment you would need part of one game and part of another to make the perfect game on all platforms it seems, yes Forza needs more tracks but the racing is so much better i can see the online play on grid is going to be a demolishon derby when the kids and idiots get hold of it. But as psuedohippy said i miss Racedriver TOCA 3 why cant they put that on the XBOX!!!!!!!!! by far the best racer on any platform.

[Boost King]

Just a note, I ordered this game now, from Ebay. Amazing, brand new, etc, region free, $68 delivered with Air Freight.

Aussie Price $99.95
Aussie Sale Price at JB $85
Import Price $68.

How the F**k can Australia expect to compete with that.

C'mon MS. Lower your prices.

Boost

[Boost King]

Oh, and Aussie release is end of June, import is June 4th!

DOUBLE SNAP!

Boost

[shane32Eire]

I order my PS3 games from a canadian website videogamesplus.ca.

With shipping I can get a new PS3 game for €40(GTA4,MGS4 for example)
Takes about a week to get here, Or I can go into shop here and pay €70 for the same game.

Your not the only one being ripped off boost.
I just thank god the PS3 is region free.

[sportscrazed2]

i tried the demo and handling sucked too much for me. i think ill save myself some money and just get gt5 prologue

[JMOORE91]

i saw some clips of some cars on a street figure 8 and i was on the hook for this game.....

[oli]

I didnt love the demo to be honest , but i might rent if i get desperate for a driving game.

[New to X360]

I picked this up yesterday.....Fairly mindless smash and crash arcade racer......Brilliant!!

[mistercrow]

I bought the game and I love it. Its a blast to play. Brilliant!!!!

[XabiTorres]

I just rented it so far its great except the handling takes a bit of getting used to and wtf is up with that demolition derby crap? Its so retarded

[mistercrow]

I just rented it so far its great except the handling takes a bit of getting used to and wtf is up with that demolition derby crap? Its so retarded

I agree. I think its just thrown in as an excuse to show off the real time damage modeling.

[XabiTorres]

Its definitly the best looking racer out there too