Who Will Win Next Gen Console War?

[Richmond]

This is the age old question, so I may as well make a post about it now -

Who will win the Next Gen Console War? Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo

I'm going with MS - they have too much money to throw at this thing! :D

[Grumpy Old Fart]

I'm going with Sony. They have already got 60% of the Japanese market interested while MS have unfortunately only got 2% (Nintendo have 8% and 30% are undecided). I don't think Sony will have as big a market share as they have this generation. I'm sure MS will eat into Sony's sales and have a bigger market share than they have this generation, I just don't think it'll be enough to take out the huge Sony fan base.

[pyro89]

dude if u like ps3 so much why r u on this site

[Grumpy Old Fart]

dude if u like ps3 so much why r u on this site

dude, I don't like Sony or the PS3. However I do try to look at things realistically and open minded rather than from a fanboys point of view.

I'm just putting over an opinion based on the size of the PS2's current fanbase and the dominance Sony have had since the launch of the PS1 back in the nineties. It'll take a hell of alot to chip away at Sony's loyal fan base, unfortunately.

[sketchynetwk]

I think its going to be Xbox360, the PS3 looks too wierd...the controler looks like a boomerang and the PS3 its self is plain ugly!

[Agent X]

There will be one system with HD Games this year and its Xbox 360 so naturally consumers are going to be most interested in the first of the hd systems until...PS3 comes out. But me I'd rather by a videogame system not a grill like the PS3

[Iron Orta]

Im going with xbox 360 because thats the 1 ill be getting, but i would guess that the PS3 will win overall. There are alot of people out there that are gunna want to see the sequels to there previous releases; GTA 6 through 25 etc ;)

[Man Whore]

I'm going with Sony. They have already got 60% of the Japanese market interested while MS have unfortunately only got 2% (Nintendo have 8% and 30% are undecided). I don't think Sony will have as big a market share as they have this generation. I'm sure MS will eat into Sony's sales and have a bigger market share than they have this generation, I just don't think it'll be enough to take out the huge Sony fan base.
think about it. if 30% of Japan is undecided that means that xbox is promoting so well that they got the attention of PS2 fans. Remember japan are die hard playstation fans

[Vaki]

the japanese are also loyal nintendo fans due to the fact that the DS is outselling the psp.

[Grumpy Old Fart]

think about it. if 30% of Japan is undecided that means that xbox is promoting so well that they got the attention of PS2 fans. Remember japan are die hard playstation fans

To be honest I would say a fair few of the 30% are waiting to see more concrete details on the Revolution. Japan has always been Nintendo's strongest terrortary out of all the regions. Hopefully with new Japanese developers on board and the strong RPG titles the 360 has on offer, this will catch the attention of more Japanese gamers.

[Akany]

Yup, Japan is hot on the Rev, and they have a very loyal fan base.

Heck, you have to be loyal to back Nintendo :D

[Agent X]

the japanese are also loyal nintendo fans due to the fact that the DS is outselling the psp.That's cause its cheaper if people had more paper I bet the lot of them will buy a PSP no questions asked.

[VCJ]

I Don't Know Which 1 I Would Pick...
Xbox360 Or Ps3?
Can Someone Help Me?
Which System Is More Powerful?

[pApA SmerF01]

I Don't Know Which 1 I Would Pick...
Xbox360 Or Ps3?
Can Someone Help Me?
Which System Is More Powerful?

in terms of graphics, the xenos gpu is far greater than the nVidia's RSX...so
360>ps3 in graphics...

cpu, xenos is a monster of a processor specifically designed for gaming and virtually the perfect processor as of now, but there's not enough information on the cell functionality in gaming to accurately determine which is the better cpu....so
360?ps3 in terms of cpu power...

[VCJ]

U Know I'm Really Dumb.... And I Can Tell Ur Smart With All Those
Big Huge Words But I Did'nt Understand U.......
So Which Is Better?

[pApA SmerF01]

U Know I'm Really Dumb.... And I Can Tell Ur Smart With All Those
Big Huge Words But I Did'nt Understand U.......
So Which Is Better?

you're not dumb, plus i'm not all that smart in terms of tech stuff.

in my opinion (it's just opinion based on what i've read and interpreted) xbox360 is better.

better hardware, better software, better services.

[Grindstone]

Although I admire the bravado of my fellow posters, I think the poll represents a very jaded viewpoint [90% on Xbox 360 at this point]. I have read a lot on the PS3 and Xbox 360, and by my own biased opinion: Xbox all the way. But Sony has a much bigger fan base and will probably outsell the Xbox 360, though not by that much this time around (4 to 1 last console war).

Comparatively speaking, the two consoles will be very close with performance, but in the end, it really depends on the games. I'll stick with Xbox 360 because of certain franchises and XBL, but Sony is offering some nice additives as well. It'll be interesting this time next year.

[Mr.Combine]

Sony seems to have hyped it so much the whole PS3 will burst. All Kenny K. says is that Xbox 360 sucks and every week to act big and tough he disses MS like the spinning lying fool he is.

[ugotfragged]

PS3 will win me im a ps3 fanboy but i own an xbox and not a ps2 my brother has a ps2 see wat ps2 has is well a final fantasy (excluding ff11 for the xbox360 cause tahts not really a final fantasy)gran turismo, metal gear solid, socom, and so many platformers. see xbox only has mostly fps. WHICH I LOVE!!! but they pretty much only have halo project gotham and splinter cell. BUT the xbox 360 is gonna have PERFECT DARK ZERO YAY i cant wait for that one. but who cares cause im gettin both consoles casue im gettin teh xbox and my bro is gettin the ps3.

[Iron Orta]

Im looking 4 some original titles with the next consoles; i mean its all well and good having Project Gotham 3, Halo 3, GTA 5-6 (whatever it is), Gran Turismo 5... but where are the new titles. Thats why i get excited when i see titles like Gears Of War :)

Just my opinion but i think Sony if over doing the sequals, its not a sequal when its number 5 in the series.

[Justin Buser]

Although I admire the bravado of my fellow posters, I think the poll represents a very jaded viewpoint [90% on Xbox 360 at this point]. I have read a lot on the PS3 and Xbox 360, and by my own biased opinion: Xbox all the way. But Sony has a much bigger fan base and will probably outsell the Xbox 360, though not by that much this time around (4 to 1 last console war).

Comparatively speaking, the two consoles will be very close with performance, but in the end, it really depends on the games. I'll stick with Xbox 360 because of certain franchises and XBL, but Sony is offering some nice additives as well. It'll be interesting this time next year.

hehe, Yeah, my choice of topic probably wasnt the best considering this is an Xbox360 site :)

I'm looking forward to some original games too, and I think you made a good point Iron Orta

[Grindstone]

Yeah, and despite my opinion that Sony will outsell M$ this next time around, I voted for Xbox 360 anyway. There's still hope, right? I am just waiting for Sony to cut back a few more options on the PS3, once the fanbois start to see how diminshed their console is becoming, things may change (although I prefer the underdog status).

[bennyboo03]

man, if anyone is reading Electronic Gaming monthly and has read the august 2005 issue article about the next gen war, it fits in with this thread perfectly. there is ups and downs for each console and ps3 had the most downs mostly cuz of its designs.....(of course.)It got insulted by the "boomerang control" which if u throw it at the TV when ur mad, it will come back to you.....thats useful.It also got insulted by its "spider-logo" font, but at least they still have time to change it (slowpokes.) So, ps3 fans have to admit, xbox 360 has the "looks"

[MH_prophet]

Whoa, can't beleive I'm the only one that voted for the Revolution. I mean, if you look at the DS, it's not beating out the PSP because it's cheaper, it's more because of its innovation and steady stream of games. Proof of that point is that the DS even outsold the PS2 in the latest japanese sales charts. So if the Revolution can offer the same kind of innovation (but not go overboard, a la Virtual Boy), and a steady stream of games that utilize this in fun ways (which I think will happen), coupled with the fact that it has a downloadable library of retro games will propel it to the top. Look how little info we have on it, and yet the Revolution is still in second in most polls. Once some actual controller, hardware, and software info is released, I predict it's going to get up there even higher. I think 360 is going to come in second, probly pretty close to Revolution, because it offers pretty much the same features of PS3, but, IMO, a better software library, as well as an earlier release date and a friendly price tag. I'm sure that tons of people (including myself) will be getting 360's during the holidays, which gives it a boost as well.

[Datrix]

Although I really hope the Xbox 360 will dominate, I think the PS3 will sell a lot more units :(. Doesn't mean its the better console though.

[cmpolis]

If you ask this question on an xBox 360 site, a PS3 site and a nintendo revolution site, you would get 3 diffrent answers. I voted for PS3, it is going to be very powerful and the PS2 beat the xBox, IMO.

[Iron Orta]

I think its way to early to predict and at the present the xbox 360 seems to be getting alot of hype. Even some PS2 mags that i have read has to say the like the new look :) i think its going to be a close call, but if sony dont slip up, or drop to much from there console then they will no doubt win overall, but as long as there is enough ppl to play on xbox live with ill be happy with my 360, and my towny brother will no doubt get a PS3 because all his mates thinks its kewl!!!

[bennyboo03]

Although I really hope the Xbox 360 will dominate, I think the PS3 will sell a lot more units :(. Doesn't mean its the better console though.


but, i have heard that the ps3 will cost $400 to $500 and the games will cost around $70. Now that might lower how much are sold

[Mr.Combine]

I know like I said before unless it can blow me off for 500$ I will not be buying one. LMAO

[kOrNfReAk2k4]

I like the XBOX360 this is going to be a killer system i also like Nintendo's Revolution i am not sold on PS3 The last time i laid $300.00 for a PS2 i was fooled by the sony hype machine i bought a Gamecube and it blew away the PS2, The xbox&Gamecube are my two fave systems,this time microsoft has got it right with XBOX360 can't wait it's going to be a really killer system..

[bennyboo03]

man kornfreak, you must really like it. almost every post of urs starts with "i like the XBOX360!"

[Mr.Combine]

But you got to admit this Christmas will be pychotic. SOccer moms are going to be gunning each other down just to get one.

[bennyboo03]

man i am so glad i reserved mine already even though mine isnt until the 3rd truck load!

[pApA SmerF01]

Yeah, and despite my opinion that Sony will outsell M$ this next time around, I voted for Xbox 360 anyway. There's still hope, right? I am just waiting for Sony to cut back a few more options on the PS3, once the fanbois start to see how diminshed their console is becoming, things may change (although I prefer the underdog status).

considering ps3 won't pull off those killzone graphics, and they're downsizing to try to make it cheaper even though it'll still cost around $500 to produce so they'll still sell it for around $399 (unless they want to commit corporate suicide and sell for $299 and take a whopping $200 hit on each console sold).

once the hype dies out, and if microsoft pulls 10-12 million consoles sold by end of next year, there's still a chance that xbox360 can win.

[pApA SmerF01]

oh yeah and there are already over 300,000 preorders in the u.s. alone.

there's the japanese press release on the 25th, the american one in september, and the x05 in europe on i believe october 5th.

xbox is going to have a lot of momentum coming into this christmas season.

[Grindstone]

considering ps3 won't pull off those killzone graphics, and they're downsizing to try to make it cheaper even though it'll still cost around $500 to produce so they'll still sell it for around $399 (unless they want to commit corporate suicide and sell for $299 and take a whopping $200 hit on each console sold).

once the hype dies out, and if microsoft pulls 10-12 million consoles sold by end of next year, there's still a chance that xbox360 can win.

We're under the impression that PS3 will not be able to pull off those Killzone 2 graphics, but we're not completely sure. For all we know, all three systems could have those graphical capabilities, but we'll see.

Here's how I see it panning out next console war (we're in the preliminaries right now): Xbox 360 will get at least a 6 month head start on the PS3, maybe up to a year. As we all remember, PS2 did so well against a superior machine becase it had a little over a year to establish itself, and developers were already familiar with it. Now M$ has already secured a good line-up of game developers for the Xbox 360, thus increasing the fan base (let's face it, most of us support M$ because of Halo, PGR, Fable et alii, same goes for Sony games). If Sony continues to cut hardware, less people will be enamored with the system, nor want to wait for it when they see the Xbox 360 goodness all over.

But, as we know, the PS2 sold 87 million consoles to Xbox's 22 milion. Sony has a huge fan base and not all of them will give up that easily. I think the playing field will be leveled a bit more this time around. As for Nintendo, this Revolution has to pull through, otherwise, they may be doomed to Sega standards. Even if it is revolutionary, the fan bases for the other two consoles is not very likely to jump ship from games like GTA and Halo for Mario and Zelda.

I see Xbox 360 getting about 30-40% of the gaming console market, PS3 getting 40-55% of the market, and Nintendo is left with 15-25%. As I have heard, Nintendo will not be losing money on it's console, so despite the low numbers, at least they are making a profit on every sale.

300,000 pre-sells, and people like me who still have yet to order it. Hmm. I don't think 10 million console in one year is too far-fetched for M$.

[pApA SmerF01]

We're under the impression that PS3 will not be able to pull off those Killzone 2 graphics, but we're not completely sure. For all we know, all three systems could have those graphical capabilities, but we'll see.

Here's how I see it panning out next console war (we're in the preliminaries right now): Xbox 360 will get at least a 6 month head start on the PS3, maybe up to a year. As we all remember, PS2 did so well against a superior machine becase it had a little over a year to establish itself, and developers were already familiar with it. Now M$ has already secured a good line-up of game developers for the Xbox 360, thus increasing the fan base (let's face it, most of us support M$ because of Halo, PGR, Fable et alii, same goes for Sony games). If Sony continues to cut hardware, less people will be enamored with the system, nor want to wait for it when they see the Xbox 360 goodness all over.

But, as we know, the PS2 sold 87 million consoles to Xbox's 22 milion. Sony has a huge fan base and not all of them will give up that easily. I think the playing field will be leveled a bit more this time around. As for Nintendo, this Revolution has to pull through, otherwise, they may be doomed to Sega standards. Even if it is revolutionary, the fan bases for the other two consoles is not very likely to jump ship from games like GTA and Halo for Mario and Zelda.

I see Xbox 360 getting about 30-40% of the gaming console market, PS3 getting 40-55% of the market, and Nintendo is left with 15-25%. As I have heard, Nintendo will not be losing money on it's console, so despite the low numbers, at least they are making a profit on every sale.

300,000 pre-sells, and people like me who still have yet to order it. Hmm. I don't think 10 million console in one year is too far-fetched for M$.

i completely agree with your outlook on console design, but not so much on the spread of percentages you laid down.

those are probably very close estimates, but there's enough variables that might change the outlook.

if microsoft decides to lower the price of the 360 around the time ps3 launches, it could capture another christmas season and steal a lot of momentum from ps3. you're right about ps3's abandoning of certain features and that'll hurt them in the long run.

there's a lot of other variables that come into account, but i see there's a chance that the 360 could beat playstation3 this next generation, of course with a lot of luck.

[Grindstone]

I want to agree with you papa smerf01, but in order to do so, M$ needs about 1/3 of Sony's fanbase to jump ship and join the Xbox 360 crowd to make it near even. So far as I have seen, not even a tenth is willing to do so. Of course, we're literally watching the PS3 fall apart as the weeks go by, so resentment could fuel the ship jumping.

Here are 3 reasons M$ could pull it off:

1. Earlier release date with stunning games;
2. More developers are on board with M$ this time around;
3. Sony hype proved false & alienates fanbois.

That's why my top number of 40% for M$ meets the lowest for Sony, 40%. They could break even, with Nintendo getting 20% of the market. That was my best case scenario for M$. I guess we'll see in 5 years the real numbers.

[pApA SmerF01]

I want to agree with you papa smerf01, but in order to do so, M$ needs about 1/3 of Sony's fanbase to jump ship and join the Xbox 360 crowd to make it near even. So far as I have seen, not even a tenth is willing to do so. Of course, we're literally watching the PS3 fall apart as the weeks go by, so resentment could fuel the ship jumping.

Here are 3 reasons M$ could pull it off:

1. Earlier release date with stunning games;
2. More developers are on board with M$ this time around;
3. Sony hype proved false & alienates fanbois.

That's why my top number of 40% for M$ meets the lowest for Sony, 40%. They could break even, with Nintendo getting 20% of the market. That was my best case scenario for M$. I guess we'll see in 5 years the real numbers.

i see your point now and i totally agree.

the only thing about sony's customers are that most are casual gamers that'll go with the cooler looking console with the cooler games.

microsoft has to put out their games with a mass media blitz. if they can just capture a few initially, it'll spread quickly. i'm thinking if they can do that, they might pull 45-50% with ps3 at 40-45%.

[ugotfragged]

i completely agree with your outlook on console design, but not so much on the spread of percentages you laid down.

those are probably very close estimates, but there's enough variables that might change the outlook.

if microsoft decides to lower the price of the 360 around the time ps3 launches, it could capture another christmas season and steal a lot of momentum from ps3. you're right about ps3's abandoning of certain features and that'll hurt them in the long run.

there's a lot of other variables that come into account, but i see there's a chance that the 360 could beat playstation3 this next generation, of course with a lot of luck.
HAHAHAWOW M$ has no fan base in japan or pretty much anywhere, the next gen war outlook wil be this sony 50%, M$ 35%, and then nintendo with 15%. and i bet after this generation Nintendo will drop out of the console market and EA starts up a new console or maybe toshiba. becasue there wont be only 2 consoles battling it out theres always three since the play station debuted.

[ugotfragged]

but after this new geeration is when M$ can really be number one in the console wars becasue the sony hype MACHINE IS UNBELIEVEABLE. look wat happneed with the most hyped game of all time ENTER THE MATRIX how many copies did it sale 7 million and had to be one of teh most repetative and buggiest games to date.

[pApA SmerF01]

HAHAHAWOW M$ has no fan base in japan or pretty much anywhere, the next gen war outlook wil be this sony 50%, M$ 35%, and then nintendo with 15%. and i bet after this generation Nintendo will drop out of the console market and EA starts up a new console or maybe toshiba. becasue there wont be only 2 consoles battling it out theres always three since the play station debuted.

where do you get that ms has no fan support?

they held 35% of the u.s. market share, that's a start...

they sold 5 million in europe....

they sold ....1 million in japan....

they have fan support and a foothold.

EA is a software company that licenses games to consoles. why would they create their own console? that makes absolutely no sense.

also, nintendo won't drop out because even though they won't with the console war they're still making money. they aren't losing money on the console and with evey game sold. boom, more cash.

[pApA SmerF01]

but after this new geeration is when M$ can really be number one in the console wars becasue the sony hype MACHINE IS UNBELIEVEABLE. look wat happneed with the most hyped game of all time ENTER THE MATRIX how many copies did it sale 7 million and had to be one of teh most repetative and buggiest games to date.

i would've thought halo 2 was the most hyped. and bungie didn't even hype it.

[ugotfragged]

where do you get that ms has no fan support?

they held 35% of the u.s. market share, that's a start...

they sold 5 million in europe....

they sold ....1 million in japan....

they have fan support and a foothold.

EA is a software company that licenses games to consoles. why would they create their own console? that makes absolutely no sense.

also, nintendo won't drop out because even though they won't with the console war they're still making money. they aren't losing money on the console and with evey game sold. boom, more cash.

compared to sony thats nothing even though sony had dlaunched a year b4 they its still 88million consoles to 23million that is 1/4th. me im not a sony fanboy i love xbox more than the ps2 but you have to look at the facts. and why wouldnt ea release a console WELL THEY DID B4. and wats stopping them from making another one M$ made a console and everybody was like why would they make a console. im betting you that nintendo will leave the console market. if theres less than 10% market share for a console it IS LOSING MONEY you manufacture a console and nobody buys it they lose money i dont see how you can say the will never lose money.

[pApA SmerF01]

compared to sony thats nothing even though sony had dlaunched a year b4 they its still 88million consoles to 23million that is 1/4th. me im not a sony fanboy i love xbox more than the ps2 but you have to look at the facts. and why wouldnt ea release a console WELL THEY DID B4. and wats stopping them from making another one M$ made a console and everybody was like why would they make a console. im betting you that nintendo will leave the console market. if theres less than 10% market share for a console it IS LOSING MONEY you manufacture a console and nobody buys it they lose money i dont see how you can say the will never lose money.

actually, the 88 million mark is a combination of ps and ps2.....also, when you have a year head start, people get familiar with the brand (developers included) and you get into the 2nd generation of games. there's other advantages, like price drops on the console and games and you get basic seniority over consoles that come out later on.

that's why sony whomped on the competition but this time around, ms has the advantage, not sony.

also, the revolution only costs like $150 to make and they'll most likely sell for $199. with 15% market share they'll still be making money. don't fool yourself. you don't have to be #1 to make money. if that was true every mom&pop shop in the world would close down for more wal-marts.

[Liquids]

Interpereting "win" as who will sell the most... I believe it will be Sony. 56% of the North American Markets are PS2 consoles, and happy customers stick with the same products and brands.
As much as I think the Xbox 360 is a better console Sony will get the sales.

M$ has obviously been trying hard to win the next-gen Japanese battle though.

[ugotfragged]

ok if you know anything about stock market or any market share at all you should know that a 15% market share is not stable business have to commit chapter 11 they will not be able to handle the costs. second the mom and pop shops wouldnt have to close down becsaue it all depends on the demographics of the area and the competition. they only get affected if there is a wal-mart or target in a 10 mile radius. and mom&po shops dont even have market share.thats why there are called mom&pop shops becasue there not corporations.

[ugotfragged]

o and nintendo will still lose money on there consoles if the manufacture them and only half are bought.

[MH_prophet]

I don't see what that has to do with anything being discussed right now, but I can gurantee you that none of these consoles are going to sell only HALF of the amount produced. Even ignoring the fact that the companies will adjust their output to balance supply and demand anyway, saying that any of these companies are going to lose 50% of their market is just too farfetched. Oh, btw, Nintendo, though selling the least consoles of this generation, made the most profit. Thus is the wonder of low development costs, something the PS3 lacks.

[ugotfragged]

^^^^^^ no i didnt mean that nintendo will actually produce consoles and only sell half im just putting it out more blantantly an example becasue papa smerf thinks that if nintendo produces 10 consoles and sells only 7 then they wont lose money. they will lose money on the other 3 consoles. o and most developers are saying that they are not going to use the xenon tools that are given to tehm becasue it limits some of the things that you can do.

[pApA SmerF01]

o and nintendo will still lose money on there consoles if the manufacture them and only half are bought.

it's called production on demand.

that's why there'll be a first shipment that's limited, then a second and so on and so forth so they can adjust to their market. if every company lost money every time they didn't sell all of one product, there would be no competitions. your argument just makes no sense. then again, neither does your reasoning in your posts, so i guess that i shouldn't expect any better....

[ugotfragged]

^^^^^^ no i didnt mean that nintendo will actually produce consoles and only sell half im just putting it out more blantantly an example becasue papa smerf thinks that if nintendo produces 10 consoles and sells only 7 then they wont lose money. they will lose money on the other 3 consoles. o and most developers are saying that they are not going to use the xenon tools that are given to tehm becasue it limits some of the things that you can do.

i dont know what im talking about i go to pepperdines business academy. haha you have no i dea and if you do its very vague.

[ugotfragged]

nintendo never limits its shipments first of all you obviously dont remember that there was an overstock with the N64 and the gamecube. so nintendo stopped manufacturing them in early 2005 and just be gan production of them again in the month of may.

[pApA SmerF01]

i dont know what im talking about i go to pepperdines business academy. haha you have no i dea and if you do its very vague.

you must be a fool to try to continue this debate with a programmer....

in case you didn't figure that out by now....

here is a link to what i like to call easy reading abou the xenos ati c1 processor...hope you like it, because nvidia is just adding to their ge7800 for the ps3 gpu...not exactly innovation...

ati xenos processor (http://www.beyond3d.com/articles/xenos/)

[pApA SmerF01]

nintendo never limits its shipments first of all you obviously dont remember that there was an overstock with the N64 and the gamecube. so nintendo stopped manufacturing them in early 2005 and just be gan production of them again in the month of may.

yes, and they made money on the gamecube. you don't understand that they can be in last place and still make money.

they produce their consoles with little actual cost. no hdtv....boom don't need to upgrade all that much. they don't need to sell all that much, and they aren't in debt like most other companies.

where are the nintendo quarterly profit projections for next year? they don't predict a loss. and they won't have a loss. they'll have the cheapest console, and it'll still not be losing money for them.

[ugotfragged]

omg wat im tryin to say is that nintendo always loses money on loss of those consoles that were not sold from there production and profit margin.

[pApA SmerF01]

omg wat im tryin to say is that nintendo always loses money on loss of those consoles that were not sold from there production and profit margin.

really? i could've sworn they were in the green with gamecube....oh wait they were.

[Grumpy Old Fart]

An interesting article published by experts regarding predictions of the Next Gen market upto 2012.

Here's the article....LINK (http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050719/195743.html?.v=1)

For those who cannot be bothered to read it alll....

The report predicts that Sony will sell 121.8 million PS3s worldwide through 2012. Sales of Xbox 360s are expected to reach 58.8 million and of Nintendo's Revolution nearly 18 million. Cumulative retail revenues for all consoles over this period will exceed $47bn.

[Mr.Combine]

Interesting Article

[bennyboo03]

wow a whole page of arguments. a new record!

[korphaeron]

Who will win the Next Gen Console War?
:D

Well its too early to say as there isnt enough information on the PS3 to warrant it out, and the Revolution hasnt really revealed much, just the awesome downloading feature.

[Blank]

I'm beginning to think that the 360 will win the next generation of consoles, mainly because it will be cheaper than the PS3 and will still be bloody brilliant. But it's anyone's game really, especially if Nintendo's Revolution is impressive.

[jusl3laze]

dude if u like ps3 so much why r u on this site

lol wut a stupid remark why have this post then if sum 1 agress with ps3???

[Justin Buser]

lol wut a stupid remark why have this post then if sum 1 agress with ps3???

Everyone is welcome here - PS3 Fan or not :)

[pApA SmerF01]

Everyone is welcome here - PS3 Fan or not :)

exactly. but what isn't right is when people just plop in and spout "xbox sucks and ps3 owns everything" with no real reason for that opinion.

[Grindstone]

I prefer to have people with different views come and post. It keeps me from becoming narrow-minded, unless, as smerf01 pointed out, they're just coming to spam and not add anything useful.

Anyway, as we draw closer to the Xbox 360 launch, and Sony continues to cut features and lose exclusive titles, I am feeling more confident that Xbox 360 may prevail. I've noted more people talking about the 360 than the PS3, and I've been hearing more jaded Sony fans considering the 360 instead of the PS3. Of course, we cannot overlook the dark horse candidate Nintendo Revolution, but I still do not see it as a contender with the other two. Espically without being HDtv enabled. The next few months should be pretty good as M$ launches its Xbox 360, and Sony has to spout off a bunch of crap [lies?] to keep interest flowing in their direction. I have no idea what Nintendo will do, so it should be interesting to see.

[Grumpy Old Fart]

exactly. but what isn't right is when people just plop in and spout "xbox sucks and ps3 owns everything" with no real reason for that opinion.

yep and those kinds of post will be deleted instantly.

People can certainly have an opinion, and if someone prefers anyother console over the 360, thats fine. As long as the discussions are friendly, informative, polite and there's no flaming then it'll be fine.

Spammy one liners like 'xbox Sux, ps3 P4wns All", and flame or argument baiting posts will feel the wrath of Grumpy and will get deleted :aetsch:

[pApA SmerF01]

yep and those kinds of post will be deleted instantly.

People can certainly have an opinion, and if someone prefers anyother console over the 360, thats fine. As long as the discussions are friendly, informative, polite and there's no flaming then it'll be fine.

Spammy one liners like 'xbox Sux, ps3 P4wns All", and flame or argument baiting posts will feel the wrath of Grumpy and will get deleted :aetsch:

i came across a post that looks oddly familiar to that lol...got me beefed up for a pwning. i ripped into the post. i wonder if it got deleted...?

[Cybergig1]

I have to say I like both systems, (Xbox/PS) they both have specific games I like on each one, when it happens to be a game on both systems I do always get it on xbox usually because I want to play it on live.

That being said I do have to say overall worldwide the Playstation 3 will probably be the top system for the next gen. Unless it just completely has some freak thing happen to make it well not turn on or something lol. I mean really microsoft will be doing good just to get a small percentage of Japan. For the first 6 months of this year the original Playstation outsold the Xbox. I mean that says a lot, Japanese gamers are just that way, Xbox 360 just needs to have a lot more games geared towards the Japanese audience's taste (which they are trying very hard to do which is great) but as many have said with Nintendo going to always have their chunk of Japan and then Sony following suite it'll be hard for the Xbox 360. I do believe the Xbox 360 can claim top honors in some countries possibly. But I'm afraid I dont see how they can become worldwide market leader in this coming generation. With the original Xbox people just always talked about how it was technically superior which it is but that still didn't make it outsell the PS2

Its all about the games, can read specs on the systems and theorize about the possibilities for days and weeks and months and it really just comes down to the game and if its fun anyways :) hence I just get both systems and make it easy lol

[Mr.Combine]

I like the Xbox 360 it seems to have alot of the games for every1: RPGs (Personally I dont play them no offence to those who do, but I think they are too nerdy) FPSes, Racing games, Sports games, and alot more games which still have only been announced briefly. The PS3 so far just has alot of FPSes like Killzone and I-8. Now allow me to get back to watching King Of The Hill.

[citizen X]

I prefer to have people with different views come and post. It keeps me from becoming narrow-minded, unless, as smerf01 pointed out, they're just coming to spam and not add anything useful.

Anyway, as we draw closer to the Xbox 360 launch, and Sony continues to cut features and lose exclusive titles, I am feeling more confident that Xbox 360 may prevail. I've noted more people talking about the 360 than the PS3, and I've been hearing more jaded Sony fans considering the 360 instead of the PS3. Of course, we cannot overlook the dark horse candidate Nintendo Revolution, but I still do not see it as a contender with the other two. Espically without being HDtv enabled. The next few months should be pretty good as M$ launches its Xbox 360, and Sony has to spout off a bunch of crap [lies?] to keep interest flowing in their direction. I have no idea what Nintendo will do, so it should be interesting to see.

Again I agree with u

It sounds like Sony is desperate, trying to pull so much hype out of their as*, that even some ps2 fanboys don’t believe anything that Sony’s saying, and are thinking of buying an Xbox 360 instead

[Mr.Combine]

Yes Sony is losing the steam from their own feces.

[MIKEJ232111]

[B]Xbox360 Will Win

[Jacksmith28]

360 all the way with microsofts record of being purrrrrrrrfect! :top:

[Quade013]

I think it is extremely early to predict a clear cut winner in the next gen console wars. I do have to agree with GOF that PS3 will maintain a domainent makert share through this next generation. Before anyone boos me, I also think that Microsoft is doing a great job as the new kid on the block. Their fan base and over demographics are growing each year and with the introduction of the 360 this positive trend is sure to continue. Just remember how you eat an elephant; one bite at a time.

[tarheelfan]

I'm a huge xbox fan and have the 360 reserved, but I dont believe M$ will take Sony in this generation. There are still too many casual gamers who will pick up the ps3 based on the name only. But I believe M$ has made all the right moves and this race will be alot closer then last generation.

[Mr.Combine]

Hmm you never know tarheel you just never know. I think so far that MS is doing the right things and its obviously clear that Sony's steam is going away like a piece of sh!t in the artic.

[cpapple]

Even though i am getting a 360... Sony will win the war IF they have a pretty decent online gaming. Xbox is talking about hd being in the later models of the 360. Sony has blu-ray standard in their ps3. Twentieth Century Fox chose blu-ray over hd-dvd(xbox)and if sony gets it out to enough people it could be bad for microsoft.

[zCraven15]

there is no match between them.the 360 is way more customisable and the xbox live silver is frickin free. there r so many good games and accsesories and perk that make the 360 the best next gen console. i like the faceplates that u can change and it comes with a 20gb hard drive and ps3 isnt coming with one and revolution might not even b able to have one, that will suck

[Glock 19]

I will perdict M$ and sony will be neck and neck. We wil have to wait for final numbers to come in I think the European market will be deciding number of which sells more, as for nintendo I see them taking 3rd place ,but as other people on forum has said don't count them out either.

[rogerpe]

Playstation has more reputation but xbox360 is more respectable than ps3...
Playstation fans are going to buy ps3 because sony has brainwashed them but xbox360 is propably going to win the battle...

[Jeet]

Im surprised that the Revolution recieved only 2 votes, considering that its Nintendo. I personally believe that the casual gamer would go for the cheaper, more reliable system, considering that the PS3 will cost 2-3 times more that the Revolution. the 360 looks like the all-around best system, but itll be so close considering that: PS3 has a strong fan base, but casual gamers who bought a PS2 might get a Revolution for its price, Nintendo attracts hardcore gamers, as well as people who have never wanted to play video games eg. Donkey Konga was such a amazing game cause I loved it, and my parents loved it, Nintendo is a pretty consistent company, good franchises, i mean Zelda is more popular that Halo, were gonna have to see how it turns out, but im still getting my 360... after they have HD-DVD drives :)

[George]

There will be one system with HD Games this year and its Xbox 360 so naturally consumers are going to be most interested in the first of the hd systems until...PS3 comes out. But me I'd rather by a videogame system not a grill like the PS3
that photos funny :) :elefant:

[syklone]

dude, I don't like Sony or the PS3. However I do try to look at things realistically and open minded rather than from a fanboys point of view.

I'm just putting over an opinion based on the size of the PS2's current fanbase and the dominance Sony have had since the launch of the PS1 back in the nineties. It'll take a hell of alot to chip away at Sony's loyal fan base, unfortunately.
thank god for u^^^ man. I own both ps2 and xbox, each are very respectable. I think ps2 might have slightly better graphix and better hd support(blu-ray) but won't hold up to well in online and gameplay. Nitendo will be gone in next decade. To many wrong decisions, like no online, hd, just innovation that takes years to develop. Everyone has the right to they're own opinion and shuld be heard without bias. :knuddel:

[youareindenial]

Ok. if you think about it for a second, this is a XBOX360 website. obviously you will get more votes for the 360, just makes sense. you are all in denial - PS3 has completely whooped all you're dreams of havin ''the perfect console''. most of you seem to be buying 360 on the basis of looks - ''the PS3 is ugly, i hate grey''. you do not have the console strapped to your back for everyone to see, you sound like women... ''sorry, does this come in pink?'' and in my opinion the 360 looks like a cheap piece of plastic, with a little flashy green light. WOW. Microsoft have pulled out all the stops.
Sony with the PS3 has the console war in the bag and if i gave any of you advice it would be to not bother buy the 360 and just go for the PS3. you will be kicking yourselves of you don't. We have ALL the great games.

[JAdlon85]

I think it will be the Xbox 360 because it looks awesome and has tons of great features.

[bennyboo03]

Ok. if you think about it for a second, this is a XBOX360 website. obviously you will get more votes for the 360, just makes sense. you are all in denial - PS3 has completely whooped all you're dreams of havin ''the perfect console''. most of you seem to be buying 360 on the basis of looks - ''the PS3 is ugly, i hate grey''. you do not have the console strapped to your back for everyone to see, you sound like women... ''sorry, does this come in pink?'' and in my opinion the 360 looks like a cheap piece of plastic, with a little flashy green light. WOW. Microsoft have pulled out all the stops.
Sony with the PS3 has the console war in the bag and if i gave any of you advice it would be to not bother buy the 360 and just go for the PS3. you will be kicking yourselves of you don't. We have ALL the great games.


lol name 5 great games that the PS3 has and the 360 doesnt u fanboy

[Cos2k3]

people are loving the ps3 now, but they will soon change their minds once the real games footage is shown and the prices are announced.
Go 360!

[youareindenial]

lol name 5 great games that the PS3 has and the 360 doesnt u fanboy

Well, Devil May cry 3, Devil May Cry 2 and obviously Devil May Cry 1 - the BEST action games ever, God Of War will play second fiddle to them. Gran Turismo - AWESOME!!! WRC 1 & WRC 2 were both good respectably. Metal Gear Solid 3 (dunno if it was on xbox). TEKKEN 4 & 5 - Best fighting games Ever Made. Killzone1's graphics were pretty groundbraking in themselves on the ps2...

All i can think of (FOR NOW)...

You see. all these games are just what everyone talks about. All i see that comes out of xbox that is good is Halo, but i can play that on my PC. you would be left out of every conversation if you do not have the PS3!
Tell me xbox games that astounded the world.

[Citruso]

You see. all these games are just what everyone talks about. All i see that comes out of xbox that is good is Halo, but i can play that on my PC. you would be left out of every conversation if you do not have the PS3!
Tell me xbox games that astounded the world.
I hate having fights with fanboys, as it makes me look like one but I hate how they always say that the only thing we Xbox owners talk about is Halo 2 so I'm clearing it up, though majority of posts do seem like it, there are other great titles. Project Gotham Racing 2, out of my 25ish freinds list I have somebody still playing it. Forza Motorsport sounds like a good racer, haven't heard anything bad about it. Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee and Oddworld Stranger's Wrath are great platform titles. Dead or Alive 3 Dead or Alive Ulitmate Dead for those who like the fighting games. MechAssault and MechAssualt 2: Lone Wolf are awsome Live titles. The new Conker Live & Reloaded has impressive graphics and online play. Crimson Skies is also a nice game. And for those who like RPG games there is Fable and Jade Empire.
Funny when you say we're biasis when PS3 fanboys always say there's nothing but Halo 2 that we talk about.

Enjoy your stay on Planet Xbox 360.

[George]

I hate having fights with fanboys, as it makes me look like one but I hate how they always say that the only thing we Xbox owners talk about is Halo 2 so I'm clearing it up, though majority of posts do seem like it, there are other great titles. Project Gotham Racing 2, out of my 25ish freinds list I have somebody still playing it. Forza Motorsport sounds like a good racer, haven't heard anything bad about it. Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee and Oddworld Stranger's Wrath are great platform titles. Dead or Alive 3 Dead or Alive Ulitmate Dead for those who like the fighting games. MechAssault and MechAssualt 2: Lone Wolf are awsome Live titles. The new Conker Live & Reloaded has impressive graphics and online play. Crimson Skies is also a nice game. And for those who like RPG games there is Fable and Jade Empire.
Funny when you say we're biasis when PS3 fanboys always say there's nothing but Halo 2 that we talk about.

Enjoy your stay on Planet Xbox 360.

and the kotor series i have no idea how many times i replayed over that game and we got morrowind of course which i dont believe the ps2 did :elefant:

[Rubiks14]

god what kind of stupid *** question is that xbox 360 of course but this is an xbox 360 forum so anywhere else will get you different answers, exept like a public pole on gamespot or something

[ace2cloud]

Don't you think this thread is a bit premature?

We haven't even seen the Revolution's controller or price (although from what I've heard it kicks ***) and PS3's price is being predicted at $299 one day and then $999 the next! You can't determine who is going to win the console war when 2/3 of the consoles don't come out for almost another year...

But, as a wild guess, I'd say the Xbox 360. M$ is in too great a position to lose. They are already forcing Sony to launch early (but I don't think we'll even see the PS3 until Summer '06) but now they may be forcing Sony to launch at $399 or even $299! And, by the time the PS3 releases, the 360 will have been out for nearly a year, the Premium package will be $299 (or a similar package) and it will already have 2nd-to-3rd generation games on it, while the PS3 has just launch games, working out the kinks.

I believe it will be close this gen.

Market-Share (USA):
PS3-%35
360-%40
REV-%25

Never underestimate Nintendo, my friends.

[Playstation fanboy]

I WILL SHOW U WHY PS# IS BETTER WAHAHA http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/16/news_6124681.html

[Playstation fanboy]

ps3 i mean wa...ha

[MasterGouken]

I think the 360 will do better than the last microsoft console as they have a time advantage over sonys next gen offering. If MS can get a big enough user base before the ps3 comes out, and there are enough original innovative games then the 360 could win this console war (but dont discount nintendo just yet - the revolution could suprise a few people).

[Playstation fanboy]

y do you care who wins its about us the gamers not the person next to us corect who cares who wins...except for the millons of ppl that do care

[Playstation fanboy]

LOL wouldent be funny if rev won LOL +_+

[Cybergig1]

I'm going to have both and enjoy them both so really dont care what other people think about them. Although historically it seems for my playing habits I buy all the exclusive games on PS and then my music games whereas I buy most other things on Xbox (in cases where they are on both platforms) because I like to do my online gaming with Xbox live. As I just enjoy having a unified system much more than signing up an account for each game. But it almost always equals out with playing time one way or another. Go gamers forever, I could care less about being some companies brand whore!

[cwhit122]

I believe that the ps3 will will outsell the xbox 360 barely this generation. only because of its name. but then come the generation after x360 and ps3 and Microsoft will surely be victorous. Just like peter moore said an empire like sony will not an empire forever. (not exact quotes but you understand)

[davidcena]

i have to say the 360 b/c it has already launched and the 360 and ps3 have the same graphics so why wait till 06 to get a ps3 when you can get a console with the same graphics now.

[PAINKILLER1009]

microsoft hands down.
it doesnt take an einstein to figure that one out :albertein

[footballforever]

well I own the 360 and I'm a huge microsoft fan, but this thread is really stupid, what the hell do you think most people are going to vote for on a XBox site, the PS3....lol. I don't think so.

[Big_P]

Just cuz its an xbox site doesnt mean their just gonna pick the 360. some might like the 360 but like the ps3 more. you dont even know what your talking about

[footballforever]

Just cuz its an xbox site doesnt mean their just gonna pick the 360. some might like the 360 but like the ps3 more. you dont even know what your talking about
people come here because they like teh Xbox/xbox 360, hmmmm duh it's an Xbox site, not many people come here who are Diehard Sony fans, and if they do it's just to homer there system. So I don't think you know what your talking about.

[Fo0l]

C'mon the truth guys, even though M$ has alot of money, sony has more fans. Even though i like the 360 better, i think its gonna be ps3 then xbox360 then revolution with ps3 and 360 close and revolution last. but this time, nintendo is gonna get more sales then before.

just my opinion...

[Furioustiger]

I read all these posts and I have to say that is too early to say anything about this war, lets wait untill the PS3 come to the market and maybe few months after this we will have a better picture of the situation!?!
Both consoles are pretty much the same, and I believe that the prices will be too!!
I have the Xbox360, but I will buy the PS3 too, I don't care about the company's fight, I want to play the BEST GAMES EVER!!!
I didn't write about the Revolution because I think they will not take part at this war, but you never know, if it's happen than I will BUY IT TOO!!!