Your Thoughts on the New Dashboard Experience? - Page 2

Pepper Jack · 22-11-2008, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hrdone

so when you put a game on the harddrive do you need the disk any more?
im shure this is a stupid question but ive not heard much about it other thn you can add them so i really dont know.

yeah you need the disk so that people can't just install all their friends games and keep em on their hard drive, but other than for verification purposes the xbox doesn't actually use the disk

rabbitc · 23-11-2008, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by remixFA

fallout has never frozen on me, even on my 12 hr session. now i save alot more often thanks to my random freezing.
just to make things worse, i came home last night to find out my daughter had tried to see if my new controller was tea resistant.....

im still trying to drip dry the thing.

likewise - even after NXe, Fallout has been solid.
I don't know if it's because I have the Falcon elite - shouldn't make a diff though.

Blasterpez · 23-11-2008, 01:48 PM

how much HDD space is a full game install taking? i have quite a few games, just wondering how many of them will fit on the hard drive.
also, will you need to reinstall games to get them on the hdd?

Pepper Jack · 23-11-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Blasterpez

how much HDD space is a full game install taking? i have quite a few games, just wondering how many of them will fit on the hard drive.
also, will you need to reinstall games to get them on the hdd?

the 2 i've tried were between 6 and 7gb

hrdone · 23-11-2008, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepper Jack

yeah you need the disk so that people can't just install all their friends games and keep em on their hard drive, but other than for verification purposes the xbox doesn't actually use the disk

well crap cuz thats what i was gonna do. i wanted to put RB2 and CoD:WaW on mine....

Pepper Jack · 24-11-2008, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by hrdone

well crap cuz thats what i was gonna do. i wanted to put RB2 and CoD:WaW on mine....

foiled by microsoft again!

i bet you would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddlin' anti-piracy staff

remixFA · 24-11-2008, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pepper Jack

foiled by microsoft again!

i bet you would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddlin' anti-piracy staff

and their little dog too!!

u really think MS wasnt going to have some failsafe so you couldnt just pirate your friends disk? jeesh.

silly wabbit, trix r fo .. umm... kids!..

pseudohippy · 24-11-2008, 12:19 PM

From what Ive read somewhere to which I dont currently know the link, oh, somewhere on IGN about Halo 3. They were saying that some games will run worse after installing on the HDD due to all sorts of technical speech about how the game was set up originally. Bunjie actually reccomends against installing Halo3. They did all agree however that now that developers know about the HDD install they can develop for that and eventually the new games will have significantly quicker load times and optimize the new ability to load games.

Pepper Jack · 24-11-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by psuedohippy

From what Ive read somewhere to which I dont currently know the link, oh, somewhere on IGN about Halo 3. They were saying that some games will run worse after installing on the HDD due to all sorts of technical speech about how the game was set up originally. Bunjie actually reccomends against installing Halo3. They did all agree however that now that developers know about the HDD install they can develop for that and eventually the new games will have significantly quicker load times and optimize the new ability to load games.

if this is all true then i think i'm gonna have to invest in a larger hard drive, i'm thinking of buying an elite soon anyway because my red ring warranty runs out in april and i don't trust my 4th xbox to be any more reliable than the previous 3. i think game installs are a great idea and will probably push the limit even further for gaming.

islandpopper · 24-11-2008, 03:08 PM

I like it more than the old one... it's kind of Wii inspired though... ha, ha, ha.
For me it's easier to navigate... although one bit that was harder is looking at your active downloads... there's no direct way to do it... once I found out how, it's simple enough.

I like it more than the previous one BY FAR!!!

pseudohippy · 24-11-2008, 03:16 PM

Unfortunately the IGN article doesnt cover all I said. But I found the IGN link anyhow talking about Bungie and Halo3. From there I surfed around and found a developer quote saying in the future load times will be cut significantly, but I cant seem to find it. Here are the key paragraphs from the IGN article.

so Bungie developer Mat Noguchi took some time to explain the problem on Bungie.net.

Basically, Halo 3 uses a special partition of the Xbox 360 hard drive as scratch memory to quickly load maps. Because it's pulling data from one device (the DVD drive) and copying it to another (the HDD) the software can do both at once. But when the game is installed solely to the hard drive, it can't easily perform both operations simultaneously and thus the process is slowed down significantly. If you want to geek out about things like read/write heads and data copy ratios, then head over to the Bungie.net post and read more.

But the bottom line is that, for games that were developed and released before Microsoft released specs on the new hard drive install feature, performance may actually decrease with full game installation rather than increase. Bungie is now recommending that you not install Halo 3 to the hard drive if you want the game to perform optimally. Will other developers come forward and do the same?

Every game is developed differently, and it could be that some titles will see a performance increase when installed to the hard drive, but for now that will have to be judged on a case-by-case basis.

Here is the link to IGN with the info:IGN: 360 Hard Drive Install Gimps Halo 3

remixFA · 24-11-2008, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepper Jack

if this is all true then i think i'm gonna have to invest in a larger hard drive, i'm thinking of buying an elite soon anyway because my red ring warranty runs out in april and i don't trust my 4th xbox to be any more reliable than the previous 3. i think game installs are a great idea and will probably push the limit even further for gaming.

it is true. right now, games are optimized for quick cd loads and partial drive installs... which is why h3 is actually slower to load after the drive install. as games come out, they will be able to optimize em from now on to be faster for a harddrive install.

Blasterpez · 24-11-2008, 10:32 PM

well, psuedohippy, the main problem with that game your talking about is that it is halo 3.

i streamed a movie on the xbox last night through netflix. it was pretty cool. watched the whole flick without any hickups. my beef is the video quality, which was good, isn't as good as an upscaled dvd or frickin blu ray (which is why i normally watch). but i guess the quality was passable as dvd quality. but just barely.
the other issue is sound. i am not sure what it was coming through as, i think it was a dolby 2.0 signal. if you have a reciever that has pro logic 2, then i guess your safe (it'll take any dobly signal and mimic a 5.1 signal).
these weren't bad things, i was impressed, actually at how easy it was. now, i can watch massive amounts of mooovies for free! well, not really, but i can watch as many as i can for cheap! yeah!

Pepper Jack · 25-11-2008, 02:09 AM

i can't wait to see what possibilities the game installs will open up, i'm gonna need a new hard drive asap

pseudohippy · 25-11-2008, 01:24 PM

Yeah, I have the 120gb from my elite for over a year now and Ive never even used it because I never got around to transferring the data over. I might just have to finally do that now. Im thinking these game installs could be fantastic once they work with it a while.

Pepper Jack · 25-11-2008, 03:43 PM

one thing that i've been expecting for years now and am not impressed about is the downloading system, they need to add the ability to pause, prioritise and have an unlimited (or at least a lot more than the current 6 or 8) download queue

day2daze · 06-01-2009, 01:35 PM

1) Netflix (nuff said)

actually...

2) Ability to delete those trial arcade games on your Played Games list, that have no score, and really just useless clutter. Call me OCD if you must.

DarrenIndeed · 31-01-2009, 10:52 PM

I wish we had the Netflix stuff in the UK =(

Party chat is really handy, Avatars are kind of cool but we need more game integration. I wish they hadn't messed about with the marketplace so much though, it takes me ages to find everything new now, especially since it takes AGES to load anything up now from the marketplace.

And whilst I'm complaining, why does it take like, 30 seconds of searching the hard drive before I can even select that I want to look at the arcade games stored on my HDD. It is such a pain.

biosnake · 23-02-2009, 07:07 PM

not bad

tennishero · 23-02-2009, 08:02 PM

i like it ive had no problems