The over the shoulder view ruined Ghost Recon!

1stPersonGRAW · 27-03-2007, 05:28 AM

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I just took it upon myself to create a gamertag that clearly displays that I host w/ forced 1st person. It's really sad that there is no other way to find a room forcing 1st person than to create a gamertag that informs others of the gameplan.

I've pretty much given up on playing Blind Siege in rooms that allow the gimmicky OTS camera angle. I can't stand it anymore! I always used it in rooms of free choice so its not that I was at a disadvantage before. I just can't stand the way if effects this game! Every time you go into the defending teams base you can count on someone cover camping behind something waiting to spot something moving, something that has no ability to see the cover camper! Then the cover camper gets to decide when the best time is to pop out and finally expose themselves. Most times its while the attacker isn't even looking in the cover campers direction. Its just plain silly and is not good for the game IMO!

Please tell me that there are others out there that actually understand this and see the OTS has ruined Ghost Recon. Join my friends list and help grow this little First Person community into something far bigger

Kona Palangi · 27-03-2007, 08:50 AM

I have always played 1st person in GRAW and always will. Having 3rd person doesn't feel like I'm playing a real 'shooter' game. OTS play is about as *** as Richard Simmons .... I don't like it. Feel free to add me as a fellow 1st person player to your list.

Glock 19 · 27-03-2007, 09:14 AM

I am also I just play in the first person mode any other mode feels arcady to me.

Kona Palangi · 27-03-2007, 09:32 AM

The truth has never been posted better Recon ... 'Arcady' ... that;s the word I was looking for.

Darth Regnier · 27-03-2007, 04:04 PM

IF you could actually SEE your weapon in fps-mode I'd play in that mode too. FPS mode in GRAW is crappy, it's just a reticle with tracker bullets appearing every once in a while.

Grindstone · 27-03-2007, 04:17 PM

I agree with each of you. Traditionally I play FPS style, however, because Ubisoft left out the weapon in their version, I play OTS view in that game.

I really appreciate the style Ubisoft used in Rainbow Six: Vegas -- primarily a traditional FPS view, but becomes a OTS-ish style with the cover system.

Kona Palangi · 27-03-2007, 04:36 PM

I don't need to see the weapon to kill people as long as you are in my crosshair we are all good. I did like the combo style utilized in R6 but it's too bad they couldn't implement the R6 cover system in GRAW. It would have made GRAW 2 that much better of a game.

Pepper Jack · 27-03-2007, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 1stPersonGRAW

My Gamertag | FirstPersonGRAW

I just took it upon myself to create a gamertag that clearly displays that I host w/ forced 1st person. It's really sad that there is no other way to find a room forcing 1st person than to create a gamertag that informs others of the gameplan.

I've pretty much given up on playing Blind Siege in rooms that allow the gimmicky OTS camera angle. I can't stand it anymore! I always used it in rooms of free choice so its not that I was at a disadvantage before. I just can't stand the way if effects this game! Every time you go into the defending teams base you can count on someone cover camping behind something waiting to spot something moving, something that has no ability to see the cover camper! Then the cover camper gets to decide when the best time is to pop out and finally expose themselves. Most times its while the attacker isn't even looking in the cover campers direction. Its just plain silly and is not good for the game IMO!

Please tell me that there are others out there that actually understand this and see the OTS has ruined Ghost Recon. Join my friends list and help grow this little First Person community into something far bigger

i like 3rd person but when i host rooms i dont force people to play with 3rd person, people are free to make their own decisions. the fact that you force people to play your way because you think it is better is kinda sad. i have no problem with you voicing your opinion but maybe you should get off this stalin kick and just let people do their thing

i appreciate that you have your own opinion, but i have mine too and my opinion is that your opinion sucks

Kona Palangi · 27-03-2007, 05:13 PM

Have you ever thought that it's because you play in the OTS mode you suck at GRAW Alex or are you still blaming it all on cheaters and the "he got lucky" line?

Pepper Jack · 27-03-2007, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MalohiTafataha

Have you ever thought that it's because you play in the OTS mode you suck at GRAW Alex or are you still blaming it all on cheaters and the "he got lucky" line?

a little fact in here would be nice seeing as i dont suck at graw (you have never even played me) and when was the last time you heard me say anything about cheaters?? or someone getting lucky when they killed me in a game?? (i do say that last one sometimes but you never heard it)

are you and stalin up there gonna excecute me for not playing it first person?

Kona Palangi · 27-03-2007, 05:40 PM

Talk is cheap Alex I'll meet you online

Pepper Jack · 27-03-2007, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MalohiTafataha

Talk is cheap Alex I'll meet you online

ok but when i take you down i dont wanna hear any of this "FP made me lose", or "you cheated" or "you got lucky"

Wyld Weasel · 27-03-2007, 05:44 PM

I personally play in OTS view as well because it feels like you're scoped in at all times in FP. It's like everyone is carrying around sniper rifles. I just feel that that the look for FP is lacking in what they could have done.

Maybe the team that worked on RB6: Vegas needs to coordinate with the GRAW team and let them know whats up. But even RB6 mixing the different views with the cover system could be considered cover camping. The thing that will always work against a cover camper is to flank them any way possible even if it means throwing random grenades where you think they are hiding.

Now I'm not supporting the use of random grenade throwing but there's always something out there that will get under everyone's skin. It's like on RB6 the Incindary grenade and it's blast radius, or you were behind cover and that grenade exploded 3 feet from the corner and still killed you. No system is going to be perfect but allow the gamer to play in a way they feel most comfortable.

Kona Palangi · 27-03-2007, 06:01 PM

Again ... as I said Alex talk is cheap ... Scotracer on the other hand ......

1stPersonGRAW · 28-03-2007, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexJunglist

i like 3rd person but when i host rooms i dont force people to play with 3rd person, people are free to make their own decisions. the fact that you force people to play your way because you think it is better is kinda sad. i have no problem with you voicing your opinion but maybe you should get off this stalin kick and just let people do their thing

i appreciate that you have your own opinion, but i have mine too and my opinion is that your opinion sucks

That's really funny!

Well lets see, if I turned off the forced 1st person then I would also be playing w/ OTS. Bet you didn't see that one coming did you? My default view is always set to OTS!

Its not my way, its the definitive way to play Ghost Recon! I don't use 1st person in regular rooms because if I do I'm at a huge disadvantage.
I think you are kinda sad for assuming you know how I play this game!

My opinion is that you suck in First Person and you can't compete w/o the ability to lie in wait and prey on people on the move by using your precious "cover" I think its pretty funny when people complain that there is no cover in GRAW, w/ OTS anything and everything becomes something you can hide behind and still be able to view THE ENTIRE BATTLEFIELD!

Pepper Jack · 28-03-2007, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 1stPersonGRAW

That's really funny!

Well lets see, if I turned off the forced 1st person then I would also be playing w/ OTS. Bet you didn't see that one coming did you? My default view is always set to OTS!

Its not my way, its the definitive way to play Ghost Recon! I don't use 1st person in regular rooms because if I do I'm at a huge disadvantage.
I think you are kinda sad for assuming you know how I play this game!

My opinion is that you suck in First Person and you can't compete w/o the ability to lie in wait and prey on people on the move by using you precious "cover" I think its pretty funny when people complain that there is no cover in GRAW, w/ OTS anything and everything becomes something you can hide behind and still be able to view THE ENTIRE BATTLEFIELD!@!@!@!@!@!@!@!@!@!

i could rip you to shreds right now but you just did that to yourself with your own post.....that and your obviously so dumb your not even worth it

1stPersonGRAW · 28-03-2007, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexJunglist

i could rip you to shreds right now but you just did that to yourself with your own post.....that and your obviously so dumb your not even worth it

Wow! Perhaps you should learn how to debate without making yourself look so incompetent!

Pepper Jack · 28-03-2007, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 1stPersonGRAW

Wow! Sorry I insulted a mentally challenged person, perhaps you should learn how to debate without making yourself look so incompetent!

your a big fan of contradicting youself i see...an argument is unwinable if the opponant is an idiot

no more from me, this thread is closed as far as im concerned. i refuse to argue with someone as mentally stable as gaz

1stPersonGRAW · 28-03-2007, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexJunglist

your a big fan of contradicting youself i see...an argument is unwinable if the opponant is an idiot

no more from me, this thread is closed as far as im concerned. i refuse to argue with someone as mentally stable as gaz

Just how did I contradict myself? Because in free choice rooms I chose OTS and when I'm playing the game the way it was meant to be played I force 1st person?

You just refuse to debate because you have ZERO skills (or so it seems) at forming any sort of defense for you points.

Wow you give up pretty easy don't you...