Will the games really be that good?

[SuNshINe4LiFE]

Perfect dark, Kameo, PGR3, AND Dead or alive 4 will they be good games in the sense of gameplay, will the games be totally better then the original xbox or will the just have good graphics?

[cpapple]

You will be able to tell a diference in graphics than the first xbox definitely. Now it wont look like your watching a dvd....YET. But yes i am almost 100% it will be much better graphics than xbox

[citizen X]

Originally Posted by SuNshINe4LiFE

Perfect dark, Kameo, PGR3, AND Dead or alive 4 will they be good games in the sense of gameplay, will the games be totally better then the original xbox or will the just have good graphics?

they can’t afford not to make a bad game. These new game cost much more to make and needs much more man power then privies generations, the costs are now reaching the level of high end movies, they cant spend millions of dollars and three years on a game, and then not make a game that sells, a good game has every thing graphics, game play and every thing in-between. If they don’t then they’ll go bankrupt.

This is one of the big problems with the next generation, that’s not coming but already here. Its going to be much much harder to start your own game company from scratch, now that there these multimillion dollar cowponies that spent millions of dollars per game

But the up side of all of this is that now there wont be as many of those crappie hyped up game that rip off a bunch of gamer, u know witch game I’m talking about, those games that come out during a movie, for example cat woman, and then there’s those games that pick a character like superman for example, and think that this character will sell the game, and not the game play.

When parents pick a game for their 12 year old just because of the character, or its based on a movie, and see how pore quality of a game it is, they think that’s what all game are like out there with out every seeing the good games like, final fantasy 1-11, halo 1-2, nights of the old republic 1-2, and many many more.

So to answer your question, yes the games will play as good as they look; they need to, to make money, its to big of a loss if they don’t.

[cpapple]

they wont look as good as what m$ showed us. They just cant especially since they are not HD at launch. It will take a while for the games to be that good in graphics. Its the same with sony. What they showed is what is possible with the ps3. The 360 demos didnt have as good of graphics but was closer to what the games will really look like. Maybe next year they will come out with the HDdvd drive and then there will be a possibility of those graphics.

[MH_prophet]

When it comes out, the games won't look nearly as good as is possible (take MGS2, at the beginning of the PS2, and God of War now, for example.) As far as gameplay...I know for sure that CONDEMNED is going to be awesome!

[ace2cloud]

Launch games are almost always a bad indication of what a system can really do.

[syklone]

Originally Posted by ace2cloud

Launch games are almost always a bad indication of what a system can really do.

I disagree. Every system has to start somewhere and can always improve. Ok so the graphics are probably overhyped, being only 50% better looking the halo 2. I heard that ign saw a REAL-TIME DEMO OF PGR3 and it didnt look nearly as good as those screenshots

[Cybergig1]

Originally Posted by cpapple

they wont look as good as what m$ showed us. They just cant especially since they are not HD at launch. It will take a while for the games to be that good in graphics. Its the same with sony. What they showed is what is possible with the ps3. The 360 demos didnt have as good of graphics but was closer to what the games will really look like. Maybe next year they will come out with the HDdvd drive and then there will be a possibility of those graphics.

what do you mean by "not HD at launch" you do realize you dont have to have an HDDVD drive to have HD games right? Heck the Xbox now has just a couple games which run in HD (HD is just a resolution) the games are running in 720p which is now also an accepted HD format along with 1080i
the games will already be running in that resolution on Xbox 360 as all games MUST run at the minimum 720p per MS's standards for developers and thus be HD, it has nothing to do with the HD DVD drives and it having hd. 2 totally different things as an HD DVD drive would just be fore playing movies in "true hd" as it would play the discs that hold more GB than the average DVD. Nothing more as that drive is only essential to playing discs with a larger capacity and does nothing directly to make better graphics. They can simply put more data on a single disc than normal. Sorry just dont want disinformation spreading people will totally mix that up

On topic yeah games at first will look a bit better than current games (some may look way better we'll have to see) but as the months and definitely first year go by games will get better and better as developers find ways to get more juice out of each system. Just like everyone said compare first year games from any system with those coming out now. Totally leaps and bounds above

[Jeet]

Originally Posted by ace2cloud

Launch games are almost always a bad indication of what a system can really do.

*cough, Oblivion, cough,PGR3, PDZ,cough*

[ace2cloud]

Originally Posted by ace2cloud

Launch games are almost always a bad indication of what a system can really do.

[syklone]

yo ace, why to you qoute peeps with no real point. and jeet, are you saying pgr3, pdz, etc, will look like crap or is the coughing sarcastic?

[citizen X]

Originally Posted by Cybergig1

what do you mean by "not HD at launch" you do realize you dont have to have an HDDVD drive to have HD games right? Heck the Xbox now has just a couple games which run in HD (HD is just a resolution) the games are running in 720p which is now also an accepted HD format along with 1080i
the games will already be running in that resolution on Xbox 360 as all games MUST run at the minimum 720p per MS's standards for developers and thus be HD, it has nothing to do with the HD DVD drives and it having hd. 2 totally different things as an HD DVD drive would just be fore playing movies in "true hd" as it would play the discs that hold more GB than the average DVD. Nothing more as that drive is only essential to playing discs with a larger capacity and does nothing directly to make better graphics. They can simply put more data on a single disc than normal. Sorry just dont want disinformation spreading people will totally mix that up

On topic yeah games at first will look a bit better than current games (some may look way better we'll have to see) but as the months and definitely first year go by games will get better and better as developers find ways to get more juice out of each system. Just like everyone said compare first year games from any system with those coming out now. Totally leaps and bounds above

Cybergig1 Thanks for posting the facts that HD DVDs just allows for more to stored more data for what ever reassign u choose, and that u don’t need HD DVDs to play HD resolution games, so yeah thanks for posting that so I didn’t need to, you saved me some work,, I HATE WHEN PEOPLE SAY STUFF BECOUS THEY THINK THERE RIGHT AND END UP CONFUSING OTHER PEOPLE WHO DON’T KNOW ANY BETTER.

Yeah about the graphics, they will look pretty close to the screen shots that u see online, why won’t they, think about it, there using beta kits and they are pretty close to the final product the only difference may be in the HD, most computer monitor are pretty much in the HD TV range already , so if u see all these screenshots and videos, in HD and then u play your game on a standard TV then, yeah there will be a difference, and on a different topic of cores the fist generation game that come out on console are nothing compared to the last, for example tale halo 1, then fast-forward to halo 2, that is a enormous difference, the game is better then the last one in every category, AI, online multiplayer, level design, and certainly in graphics, one area that some gamers where disappointed in was the single player campaign. But besides that, it was the best one yet by far.

[citizen X]

Originally Posted by syklone

yo ace, why to you qoute peeps with no real point. and jeet, are you saying pgr3, pdz, etc, will look like crap or is the coughing sarcastic?

His point is that u don’t need HD DVDs to play HD games, and that this guy is talking out of his ***, there that’s his point,

[daniel.isaac.h]

Firstly, I totally agree with cybergig! HD doesn't equal High Definition... It is high density. M$ has many many options for them... The Xbox 360 can read DL (Dual Layer) which is 8.5 gigs(DL) compared to 4.7 (Regular DVD). Yes HD-DVD is cool, but not necessary. Other things need to be taken into consideration such as decryption, encryption, etc... Did you know that Sega GT is a bigger game (as far as amount of gigs used) compared to Darkwatch? that is just one example. As time goes by, graphics will improve, so will how companies go about encrypting. I really don't think HD-DVD's will be necessary for at least 2 years, unless M$ has some game that will take over 8.5 gigs of data... But then they could just do what Sony and Nintendo did this last round... Get two discs...

I'm really looking forward to Perfect Dark Zero! I just wish I knew more about it's gameplay, more pics?, see what weapons they keep.

Peace out

[citizen X]

Originally Posted by syklone

I disagree. Every system has to start somewhere and can always improve. Ok so the graphics are probably overhyped, being only 50% better looking the halo 2. I heard that ign saw a REAL-TIME DEMO OF PGR3 and it didnt look nearly as good as those screenshots

I don’t now what your talking about, I live in Washington state, just mile from Microsoft’s HQ, and my friends Papa smerf01 actually played PGR3 and said it looks pretty close to what the screen shots looked like, although the game wasn’t close to being finished.

[citizen X]

Originally Posted by syklone

I disagree. Every system has to start somewhere and can always improve. Ok so the graphics are probably overhyped, being only 50% better looking the halo 2. I heard that ign saw a REAL-TIME DEMO OF PGR3 and it didnt look nearly as good as those screenshots

How can u say 50 % better then then halo 2, PGR3 uses 40,000 polygons for the exterior, and 40,000 for the interior? That’s 80,000 polygons for just one car, and don’t for get the anti-aliasing. I know that the x360 is still in its infancy but come on, u cant say crap like that here and not expect some one in this sites hardware department to say something. Halo looks great I’ll give u that, but Master Chief has 10,000 polygons the most, that’s 8 times the detail, but it’s not just in the people ore the vehicles, the environment is just extremely detailed. Halo 2 pails in comparison.

I play on line all the time, but I know what looks better and halo is nothing compared to the graphics of PGR3.

[Jacksmith28]

Aren't we all asking the same question?

[syklone]

Originally Posted by citizen X

How can u say 50 % better then then halo 2, PGR3 uses 40,000 polygons for the exterior, and 40,000 for the interior? That’s 80,000 polygons for just one car, and don’t for get the anti-aliasing. I know that the x360 is still in its infancy but come on, u cant say crap like that here and not expect some one in this sites hardware department to say something. Halo looks great I’ll give u that, but Master Chief has 10,000 polygons the most, that’s 8 times the detail, but it’s not just in the people ore the vehicles, the environment is just extremely detailed. Halo 2 pails in comparison.

I play on line all the time, but I know what looks better and halo is nothing compared to the graphics of PGR3.

dude, ok first of all dont post twice using my qoute both times. Secondly, pdz does only look 50% better then halo 2, at least with the media posted so far. I'm sure it will look better by release, but graphics won't sway me to buying it, I am getting it for the interesting gameplay with weapons/gadgets and good multiplayer. Lastly, I was just repeating what IGN.com sayed about them seeing an in-game of pgr3 and they didnt think it looked as good as the screenshots ok.