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Old 25-11-2005, 08:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default *Must Read* My Halo 3 Ideas *Best Ever Written*

Here's JUST 10 totally different game modes for offline and online multiplayer gaming. I call them, "Custom Scenario's". The scenario's are as follows:

Escape
- Players must escape a huge map
- The players' goal to reach from Point A to Point B
- There will be 5 Helipads and 5 Pelicans waiting there for you
- Each Pelican will support up to 10 players
- Flood, Covenant, Brutes, and Sentinels will try to kill you
- Players will be scattered all over the map

Maximum Players: 50
Available Maps for this Scenario: 1-5

Search and Rescue
- There will be 15 Jail cells on the map
- Players must rescue 20 marines from these Jail cells
- Only 4 of the 15 jail cells contain the marines
- Players must complete this task within the time limit
- Players will be given an assortment of weapons and vehicles
- Elites, Brutes, Grunts, and Hunters will be guarding the jail cells

Maximum Players: 32
Available Maps for this Scenario: 1-5

Onslaught
- Players must defend a base in the middle of the map
- You must survive for minimum of 15 minutes
- Waves of Brutes, Covenant, Flood, and Sentinels will attack you
- Every 2 minutes the amount of units in each wave will increase
- When all players are dead it⿿s game over
- Players must survive within the time limit to win

Maximum Players: 32
Available Maps for this Scenario: 1-5

Total War
- Players will be placed on a battlefield very similar to Coagulation
- The map will be 5x larger than the map Coagulation
- There will be 6 different bases on the map for each team
- There will be 3 bunkers around the middle of the map, 2 Weapons/Vehicle Station far behind the bunkers, and an HQ Station at the very top of the map
- There will be sentry mini-guns in the bunkers
- In each Weapons/Vehicle station there will be an assortment of Alien and Human weapons like: Battle Rifles, Sniper/Beam Rifles, Magnums, Plasma Pistol/Rifle, Energy Swords, Rocket Launchers, etc.
- There will also be 8 Warthogs, 12 Ghosts, and 8 Tanks
- At the 4 corners of the map there are bases called, Weapons/Vehicles Depots. These depots allow for vehicle and weapon re-spawn. If destroyed, your vehicles and weapons will have a longer re-spawn time
- There are also 2 alien bases, one for each team. At these alien bases there are more alien vehicles like: Wraiths, Spectres, and Banshee's
- There will be 4 Wraiths, 8 Banshee's, and 4 Spectres
- To win, simply conquer the opposing bases or simply conquer their HQ and you will win automatically. Beware; there will be enemy AI units guarding the HQ Station
- Each team will have AI Allies to help in the war

Maximum Players: Max
Available Maps for this Scenario: 1-5

Survival
- This is a free-for-all game
- Players are placed in a large room
- There are 6 doors on the sides of the map
- Each of these doors will release enemy units to attack you
- The player to survive the longest wins

Maximum Players: 32
Available Maps for this Scenario: 1-5

Man Vs. Machine (Working Title)
- In this scenario players must work together to defeat enemy AI
- Similar to Total war except there are no bases
- Players start on the very end of the map
- Players are given an assortment of weapons and vehicles
- Players will have AI Allied marines
- Players will be given a range of tasks to complete
- In order to win you must destroy the entire enemy force

Maximum Players: Max
Available Maps for this Scenario: 1-5

Co-Op Mode
- There will be custom made missions that players can accomplish
- This custom campaign is only half as long as the real single player
- However these missions are very different from the single player
- Players will be scattered around the entire level and will be given individual or team based tasks to complete

Maximum Players: Max
Available Maps for this Scenario: N/A

Defend
- Players must defend a small city map at 6 different points
- At each of these points are entrances to the city like: Bridges, tunnels, roads, etc.
- Large waves of enemy units will attack
- Players must defend the city within the time limit
- If a certain amount of enemy units reach the middle you lose
- Defend the city within the time limit to win

Maximum Players: Max
Available Maps for this Scenario: 1-5

Hunter
- Players will be placed on a large map
- Players must hunt down enemy units
- The player with the most kills wins

Maximum Players: 32
Available Maps for this Scenario: 1-5

Infiltration (Working Title)
- Defensive players are placed inside a large building
- Offensive players must infiltrate the building
- Offensive players win by reaching the very top floor
- Defensive players win by protecting the building within the time

Maximum Players: Max
Available Maps for this Scenario: 1-5

Assault (Upgraded Version)
- Defensive players must protect 3 generators within the time limit
- Offensive players must plant a bomb in each generator to win

Maximum Players: Max
Available Maps for this Scenario: 1-5

Infection
- Half the amount of players are Flood and the other half are either Spartans or Marines
- The players that are Flood must infect all the Spartans and Marines
- Once you are killed by a Flood player, you will automatically be infected and turn into the flood
- Several vehicles will be given - these vehicles would definitely keep you alive
- Marines and Spartans must survive for a specific amount of time, or hunt down all the Flood Players until they're all dead, (This is Suicide)
- There will be dozens of buildings and hide outs that Marines and Spartans can hide in

Maximum Players: Max
Available Maps For This Scenario: 1-5


Other Halo 3 Ideas -- Some Ideas are from two of my friends in this club http://halo2-improvements-club.1up.com
Jet Packs
Jet Packs can be used to simply fly around the map. People who have Rocket Launchers and a Jet Pack can be very deadly. However, the Jet Pack will run out of Plasma Fuel, which will force you to find Plasma Fuel Cells around the map.

AI Bots
In offline multiplayer, you can use AI bots. The number of AI bots may vary depening on how many the Xbox 360 can hold. An example could be more than 50 AI bots. You can edit their skill, the weapons they use, what kind of character they will be (e.g. Marine, Brute, Flood, Elite, etc.), or you could set them to a standard type AI Bot.

Human Goliath
Very similar to a Mech like in the game Mech Assault. Except this one is a lot smaller and can only support 1 person. It has two machine guns as well as a missle launcher. This vehicle, however, walks very slow.

Human Hover Craft
Similar to a boat, this vehicle can support 4 passengers including a driver and a gunner. It is similar to the Alien Ghost but much stronger and slightly slower.

Human Fighter Jet
An air vehicle to match the Alien Banshee. Uses heat-seeking missles and machine guns.

Special Power-Ups
Special Power-Ups may include Shield and Speed Boosters. The Shield Booster instantly regenerates your shield if completely depleted. The Speed Booster acts like Steroids and makes you run/walk faster, shoot faster, and take less damage for a short amount of time.

New Alien/Human Weapons
A modified version of the Battle Rifle. It has a single-shot function and fires at the speed of your fingers on the controller. It's a lot more accurate than the Battle Rifle. It also causes much more damage. It has a 4x Scope instead of your average 2x Scope on the Battle Rifle.

Another weapon is a Alien version rocket launcher. It shoots a small robot, which tracks down enemy vehicles. When this robot sticks itself to the vehicle it will explode with a 2 second delay. The vehicle will be completely destroyed.

Heat Seeking Rocket Launcher
This human weapon enables users to lock-on to another person. This weapon cannot lock-on to vehicles but still can damage a vehicle but with little or no damage, unless it's a direct hit.

Human/Alien Mines
Aside from grenades, there are mines. These mines are usually used as traps. The human mine is slightly different from the alien mines. When human mines are planted on the ground it will jump in the air when an enemy gets within its radius. When it jumps in the air it explodes and instantly kills the enemy.

When a person gets within the radius of an Alien grenade it will literally jump on the enemy and stick to them. It will have a 2 second delay before it kills the enemy.

Human Shield Ability
Similar to a Jackal, you will be able to pick up a Jackal Shield as a dual wield. In the left hand you will have the shield and on the right hand you will have a SMG, Magnum, Plasma Pistol/Rifle, and any other one-handed weapons. However, the shield cannot be used as a secondary weapon. It can only be used as a dual wield.

New Grenades
2 new human grenades are Flashbang and Smoke grenades. Flashbang grenades will cause others to have a blurry screen and will be unable to fight back. Smoke grenades can cover your approach to an enemy base or even cover your sniping position.

X-Ray Vision Goggles
Used to look through buildings to see how many enemies there are. This will be helpful and will tell you where each enemy is hiding if inside a building.

Alien/Human APC's
These APC's are used as transport vehicles. Since Halo 3 will have over 50 players, this vehicle could come in handy if you need to bring 8 players to a specific area. This APC supports 8 players as well as one driver and one or two gunners.

Dynamic Weather
Multiplayer maps will have extreme weather conditions like rain, storms, snow. This will give players a good feel for the environment. It would be a nice touch to the multiplayer maps.

A New Way To Operate The Scorpian Tank
The idea is to literally be inside the tank. Now as you're playing picture yourself inside the tank. This is exactly how it will be. The tank will be able to support 3 people. That's a Driver, Gunner, and someone that operates the missle launcher.

New Version Of The Human Rocket Launcher
It has a secondary function, which allows the user to controller the rocket. Similar to the guided rocket launcher in "007 NightFire", the user will have a vision of a camera on the rocket giving the user full control of the rocket.

Hit Points
There could be specific hit points on a player. Shooting them in the head with normal weapons will cause more damage. Shooting around the chest and body area will cause moderate damage. And shooting around the legs and arms will cause little or no damage.

Squad Commands
For offline multiplayer, you can command the AI Bots that are on your team: Surpress Fire, Hold Position, Follow Me, Flank Left, Flank Right, Cover Me, etc. However, the amount of commands will be determined by the amount of directions that the D-Pad has, so basically Up, Down, Left, and Right. Only 4 commands will be available, which are: Hold Position, Follow Me, Cover Me, Surpress Fire.


Peek Around Corners
You can peek left or right when beside a wall. Similar to "Rainbow Six 3" this gives players an element of strategy and caution to slowly but surely strike your foes.

4-Player Split-Screen Co-Op Mode
A new feature in Halo's Co-Op mode. Instead of 2 players, up to 4 players will be able to play in the Co-Op feature of Halo 3.

Co-Op Online
Co-Op online will allow players to take part in the Halo 3 Campaign with many other players. An example that I would recommend would be up to 32 players. There will 8 groups of 4 players scattered around the map in which each group must accomplish specific but very difficult tasks. If one group is finished their tasks, they could find the other groups that may need help. The Online Co-Op may be different in some ways compared to the "Real" Co-Op mode. One difference could be that the Online Co-Op has added on levels that the "Real" campaign doesn't have. But these added on levels have nothing to do with the actual story. They're there to keep the Online Co-Op fresh and new.

New Camera Angles
Instead of the average 1st-person view, why not an over-the-shoulder view similar to Resident Evil 4 or Ghost Recon 2.

Stand, Crouch, and Prone
Instead of holding onto the thumb stick and having your thumb start becoming numb by crouching, you will permanately stay crouched if you press the thumb stick once. To prone, press the thumb stick twice. If crouched, press the thumb stick once to stand. When proning, it will be much more difficult to spot a sniper.

Human Flamethrower
A weapon that is found in the Halo 1 PC version. This flamethrower is ideal for taking out a group of enemies. It causes tremendous damage and can kill an enemy within 3 seconds of being caught in the blaze of fire.

Extremely Advanced AI
AI Units like the marines will constantly speak on their "Walkie-Talkie" saying random things like: "Cover me!", "Sniper on Tower!", "Grenade!", "Fire In the Hole!", "Get the *** outta there!", "What the *** are you doing?", "Ahhh ***...!", "I'm running Low on Ammo!", "Man Down! Man Down!", and dozens of other things. Elites, Grunts, Brutes, and other species of character do the same thing. Also, every single AI unit has their own Artifical Intelligence. Everything they do in the game is part of their normal AI behavior. The AI Units do whatever they want in the game, and hopefully Bungie will try to make AI Units as smart as a real player.

Interactive Maps/Environments
There could be human civilians running around the entire map. You will be able to kill them, which is the funny thing about this. Also, there could be cars, trains, buses, and different civilian vehicles driving around the streets.

Much more Complex and Bigger Maps
For Halo 3, maps should be much larger than your average Halo 2 map. Since Halo 3 is said to support over a hundred players on Xbox Live, maps should be twice or even three times the size of the largest Halo 2 map. They should add more of a complex design with many buildings, objects, obstacles, etc. An example of a very complex and large map would be a map based on a Human Region on earth. There will be tons of tall buildings as well as dozens of stores that players can walk into. So players will fully be able to roam around the entire map. There may be tunnels, bridges, many different roads and intersections. A map like this is ideal for one of my "Custom Scenario's" like the "Defend" Scenario.

Better Animation
It's weird how when you want to throw a grenade it's automatically armed. The idea is to actually see yourself pulling the metal ring off the grenade and then throwing it. Also when reloading a gun, the animation on that would be much more sophisticated and you can actually see the player pulling the clip out, throwing the clip away, and then slapping on a new magazine and then finally pulling the lever on the side of the gun to load it. So basically, just improve character animation to make it more realistic.

Destructible Environments
Being able to literally blow off a part of a building when shooting a rocket. Also, if there was a map similar to Coagulation with all the mountains, you should be able to literally shoot off a chunk of rock from the mountains. This will make the game much more realistic. Also, when throwing grenades on the ground parts of the ground should blow up.

More Realistic Battles
All the explosions and bombs and gun fire should be much more realistic like when shooting a wall with a shotgun, a chunk of the wall will blow off. Also, when shooting a Warthog with a rocket launcher, parts of the Warthog will fly all over the place and there should a lot more smoke and fire. Basically, make things seem more destructive and more devastating when things blow up and when people get killed or caught in a explosion.

Pilot a Pelican
What if we were able to pilot the Pelicans when playing multiplayer? This would be a great addition to Halo 3. However, some multiplayer maps may require a Pelican. For example, if a map was designed to have 2 separate islands with nothing but water surrounding these islands and one team was Defense and the other was offense. The offensive players would have to pilot the 5 pelicans and fly over to the other island. Now imagine seeing white streaks of sniper bullets whizzing by the ship or rockets whizzing by the pelican. Wouldn't that be exciting? Or even see those blue plasma balls from Wraiths. Now this is what I call a War for Halo 3. This is how the multiplayer for Halo 3 should be.

If I Were To Work On Halo 3
Basically, my idea is to make Halo 3 a bit more war like. The idea of massive battles, masssive explosions, tons of vehicles all working at the same time would definitely show what Halo is truley made of. So forget about all those Team Slayer games. This is the next-generation and Halo 3 should be a massive war game with over a hundred players and more than a hundred AI units. Adding in all the new ideas I have listed may totally change the way Halo is right now. Gameplay will definitely change and the way we play Halo 2 will ultimately change in Halo 3. So it's not only about getting the most kills. As my Custom Scenario's go, it's all about War with hundreds of people in one game.

However, the game modes that are currently in Halo 2 will remain, but I'd like point out that Halo 3 could have 2 sides of the puzzle. What I mean is, it will have the Halo 2 feel with the Team Slayer games and Capture the Flag Games and then there's the Custom Scenario's, which is where the massive battles and 100 player games take place. The Custom Scenario's would be totally separate from the Game Variants like Team Slayer or Capture the Flag.

But to be seriously honest, what would you rather play? The Custom Scenario's with over a hundred players and with more than a hundred AI units? or a boring game of Team Slayer with only eight people and with little or no action? Custom Scenario's of course. I think this is the future of Halo if Bungie were to consider something like this. Granted that all my Scenario's are actually used in the game and perfected for Halo 3, it will be 10x more exciting, fun, exhilerating, than the previous Halo games. Not because of better graphics but because of the massive battles on maps the size of 5 Coagulation Maps.

So if you were to compare my idea for Halo 3 to Halo 1 and 2, you'll notice that Halo 1 and 2 is more towards story and towards an individual journey through the entire Halo universe. But with Halo 3, since this is the end, why not end it with massive battles? I think if Bungie were to embrace my vision for Halo 3, it would probably be considered the ultimate next-gen game ever made.

If they were able to acheive more than 500 AI Units and over 100 players with amazing Game Animation, Game AI, Graphics, incredible game Physics with all the particles and dust and sparks that flys in the air when bombs hit the ground or when bullets hit metal walls and doors, as well as having fully destructible buildings, objects, and environments by pushing the Xbox 360 over its limits. Then yes, this would ultimately be the greatest Next-Gen game ever made. Not even KillZone 2 or any other First-Person Shooter game for the PS3 or the Xbox 360 could beat this.

What do you guys think? Give me some of your feedback or some advice on where it could improve.

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Old 25-11-2005, 08:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Try to send them to Bungie.
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Old 25-11-2005, 08:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Nice, took about 5 min to read, but very woth it. I like all of your ideas, but I think you put too much about fighting against the AI with each other, I mean seriously, if you think about it, the reason people play xbox live is for a challenge, most games enemies are easy to defeat in campaign mode or whatever compared to people on xbox live, but this is just my opinion
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Old 25-11-2005, 08:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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WOW dude thats awsome, now the only problem is.....WILL THEY LISTEN TO YOUR IDEAS, just email them to Bungi and see what happens, because those ideas are awsome
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Old 26-11-2005, 01:26 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Thumbs up Awesome Ideas

Thise ideas are awesome! I like them and it was worth the read.
I have seen on a couple of website already stating March 2006 and other stating May 2006. Pre-orders maybe starting already.

Halo and Halo 2 were awesome. I can not wait for Halo3
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Old 26-11-2005, 01:39 AM   #6 (permalink)
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wkd ideas i really liked that map but i 4get what its called, its the one with the two bunkers and stuff that you mentioned anyway great ideas, isnt it a bit l8 to be sending ideas to bungie anyway because i think they said halo 3 was 42% a month ago
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Old 27-11-2005, 05:34 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Sweet! Thanks guys for your feedback. I'll be sure to e-mail Bungie my ideas.

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Nice, took about 5 min to read, but very woth it. I like all of your ideas, but I think you put too much about fighting against the AI with each other, I mean seriously, if you think about it, the reason people play xbox live is for a challenge, most games enemies are easy to defeat in campaign mode or whatever compared to people on xbox live, but this is just my opinion
Very good point about most of my gametypes being against AI Units. But 4 of them are actually player vs. player like:

- Infection
- Total War
- Assault (Upgraded Version)
- Infiltration
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Awesome Ideas![]
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Old 01-12-2005, 09:12 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Yea thoses we're some really good ideas. Good Job
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Hmmm, heard of a place called Gamespot by any chance?

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/acti...ic_id=24748827
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Old 01-12-2005, 09:28 AM   #11 (permalink)
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100 players online,? Ever played big team lag? Thats only 16 people, and it gets a laggy. Fun ideas, but you map sizes and numbers of players are a bit unrealistic.
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I would be happy if they give the grenades a shorter fuse....I'm so tired of tossing grenades only to see the targets easily clear the blast zone...

I want to fly Pelicans.

I want the ATVs and Half Track warthogs that were advertised for Halo 2 about 6 months before it was released.

Halo 1 often had terrain with multiple points of contact for battle Halo 2 seemed to be really really Narrow, meaning you only have 1 single course to follow to get to your objective.

Halo 3 needs to rekindle the awesome atmosphere that we all loved from
"The Silent Cartographer" level of Halo 1.

I want to be able to shoot down the Troop ships that are dropping troops into combat zones. Even if the weapon you use is a big bulky 1 Shot surface to Air missile launcher that cannot be reloaded once fired.. it would be cool to be cutting across the countryside to your target and come across a small basecamp of covenant being resupplied by a small ship. so you pull up dismount....switch to your "stinger" launcher..lock onto the ship and blast it. and have good world physics....I mean burning wreckage crushing covenant troops...setting off secondary explosions on the ground equipment killing more alien troops...

I want to be able to Carry 2 of the same weapons if I Want too, or mabye decline to carry a 2nd weapon and thus be able to carry twice as much ammo for my weapon of choice...... Why couldn't I carry 2 shot guns? or mabye just a rocket launcher and double up on the ammo?

I want to see some varient of the Halo Games but make it more like an RPG. Mabye a lone spartan gets sent into the future by some ancient Forerunner device and he finds a Distant future where the Forerunners have become corrupted by their ultimate power and rule everything after having jumped into the future to escape the initial firing of the Universal Death Ray that contained the Flood. so the Spartan has to adventure around.... killing things and gathering the weapons to sell for cash so he can upgrade his armor and reflexes...mabye find pieces of better armor and wear them... I want to see a Game based in the Halo Universe that plays like a cross between Mercenaries and Elderscrolls IV..
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thats crazy long, there is no way u wrote that
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AWESOME IDEAS!!! How long did it take you to do this?! lol
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I like some of your ideas, but here is my thought about all that you have put.

1) I personally like 4v4. Teams are large enough to do fun games on decent sized maps. Yet not rediculously big. I don't like big team that much b/c you get one person on a team that doesn't know what s/he is doing and it ruins it for the entire team. 50 player battles wouldn't be that great for 25v25 b/c you just have too much stuff going on at one time.

A good team coordinates strats and what not, and that is whats fun about really good clan games and playing games against other teams with good startegies. With a lot of people per team, you can't do that and it turns into mayhem.

2) Lag- Untill MS kicks in those dedicated servers, it will be rediculously hard to make out what going on.

3) Someone earlier mentioned it, but there is too many ideas with AI. I don't like playing PD0 with bots because they can't think for themselves (easiest way to put it). THey just come after you. Might be good for practice or cutoms games, but gotta keep them out of matchmaking.

I'm not going to lie, I didn't read through your entire post. But co-op is def. something i hope to see, along with awsome maps and keeping some of the favorites, mostly lockout and midship and possibly warlock.

I also hope the 4v4 is kept. I think that is the sweet spot for vs multiplayer games.
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