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Old 09-02-2007, 06:31 PM   #41 (permalink)
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sorry easy, you dont like americans, so theres no way we would let you into our super libraries with ancient heating systems (read fireplace) where we could burn books and eat eachother for survival... guess you will just have to find your own superkewl librarys!!!
(hint, just look for big buildings that noone goes into!)
You would be fkd for a start! Librarys are for Liberals!!
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Old 09-02-2007, 08:14 PM   #42 (permalink)
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liberals dont read!! they might actually read the constitution then, or maybe pick up a nonlibby newspaper (they do exist) and read whats really going on instead of listening to Air america.... Liberals are out doing drugs and huggin trees. Non redneck concervatives like myself read.. thank you!!
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Old 10-02-2007, 08:03 AM   #43 (permalink)
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hmmm lets disect that.

stereotype of a liberal-hippies
stereotype of a conservative-rednecks

only conservatives can break out of that?
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:04 AM   #44 (permalink)
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hmmm lets disect that.

stereotype of a liberal-hippies
stereotype of a conservative-rednecks

only conservatives can break out of that?
well, i did say drug user too heheh. j/k
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Old 12-02-2007, 02:56 AM   #45 (permalink)
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I worry more about that than Global Warming. And Yellowstone is due to blow

The Yellowstone volcano woud be so cool if it blew. Man theres this place in Idaho were there is hardened lava that is 10 feet deep. It blew up when there were dinosours.
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It would be cool?!?!?!?!

Do you even know the extent of the Yellowstone "SUPER" volcano? It could obliterate most of the life in North America...

Hopefully it blows the day after I die
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liberals dont read!! they might actually read the constitution then, or maybe pick up a nonlibby newspaper (they do exist) and read whats really going on instead of listening to Air america.... Liberals are out doing drugs and huggin trees. Non redneck concervatives like myself read.. thank you!!
I do read. Thats why I know what the word liberal means and you dont. You have such a sad take on the word 'liberal' and I hate to see such good words misused. So I will educate you.

NOW PAY ATTENTION YOU AT THE BACK AND READ VERY CAREFULLY!!

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• adjective

1 willing to respect and accept behaviour or opinions different from one’s own.

2 (of a society, law, etc.) favourable to individual rights and freedoms.

3 (in a political context) favouring individual liberty, free trade, and moderate reform.

4 (Liberal) (in the UK) relating to the Liberal Democrat party.

5 (especially of an interpretation of a law) not strictly literal.

6 given, used, or giving in generous amounts.

7 (of education) concerned with broadening general knowledge and experience.

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1 a person of liberal views.

2 (Liberal) (in the UK) a Liberal Democrat.

— DERIVATIVES liberalism noun liberality noun liberally adverb.

— ORIGIN originally meaning suitable for a free man: from Latin liberalis, from liber ‘free man’.

Link to liberalis

I am quite proudly Liberal and will be (hopefully) for the rest of my days.


Q. If you are not liberal what are you?

A. A prisoner of the state and a prisoner of the mind.

The way you and many others like you use the word is not recognised as any of the above. And you call people liberals like its something to be ashamed of?
Is being a free, generous, forward thinking educated man anything to be ashamed of?
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Thank you, Eazy. I am a liberal and damn proud of it!
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It would be cool?!?!?!?!

Do you even know the extent of the Yellowstone "SUPER" volcano? It could obliterate most of the life in North America...

Hopefully it blows the day after I die
ahhh...Yeah!!! I do know the extent. Thats why it sounds so cool.
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well, i did say drug user too heheh. j/k
what so bad about using drugs? *snorts* *puffs* *scratches arms*

j/k


and i'd have to say im also a liberal by the oxford definition. but seriously who has views that all line up with what any individual party has to say?
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and i'd have to say im also a liberal by the oxford definition. but seriously who has views that all line up with what any individual party has to say?
Nobody. theres a difference between respecting a view and agreeing with one.
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Old 12-02-2007, 11:11 AM   #52 (permalink)
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I do read. Thats why I know what the word liberal means and you dont. You have such a sad take on the word 'liberal' and I hate to see such good words misused. So I will educate you.

NOW PAY ATTENTION YOU AT THE BACK AND READ VERY CAREFULLY!!

liberal

• adjective

1 willing to respect and accept behaviour or opinions different from one’s own.

2 (of a society, law, etc.) favourable to individual rights and freedoms.

3 (in a political context) favouring individual liberty, free trade, and moderate reform.

4 (Liberal) (in the UK) relating to the Liberal Democrat party.

5 (especially of an interpretation of a law) not strictly literal.

6 given, used, or giving in generous amounts.

7 (of education) concerned with broadening general knowledge and experience.

• noun

1 a person of liberal views.

2 (Liberal) (in the UK) a Liberal Democrat.

— DERIVATIVES liberalism noun liberality noun liberally adverb.

— ORIGIN originally meaning suitable for a free man: from Latin liberalis, from liber ‘free man’.

Link to liberalis

I am quite proudly Liberal and will be (hopefully) for the rest of my days.


Q. If you are not liberal what are you?

A. A prisoner of the state and a prisoner of the mind.

The way you and many others like you use the word is not recognised as any of the above. And you call people liberals like its something to be ashamed of?
Is being a free, generous, forward thinking educated man anything to be ashamed of?

sorry there, but here in america, where i live, the word liberal has taken another meaning from your dictionary verse.
Todays liberals politically are:
socialists
communists
democrats
green party
and im sure theres more.
not one of those parties is for freedom. They are all about government control for the"common good", not trusting the individual to make decsions for him. Like your own government, you pay much higher taxes to support your larger government.. you have goverment education, government social security, government welfare, and government medical care. Granted america has most of that too, which is why i fight against the tide. you dont even have the right to defend yourself, and you take pride in that!! a man that cannot defend himself, has no rights. That makes you a political prisoner in your own country. Politics is a game dominated by the few. Every side trys to pull the wool over your eyes. The only thing you can do is fight back. When the government has no reason to fear you, it has no reason to listen to you either.

Being a liberal in TODAYS REAL WORLD DEFINITION is not a good thing in my eyes.
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you dont even have the right to defend yourself, and you take pride in that!! a man that cannot defend himself, has no rights. That makes you a political prisoner in your own country.
Thats real funny coming from a guy that lives in a country where you can sue your neighbour because his false eye was pointed in your direction!

Its universally acknowledged that Americas justice system is a joke. As is the U.K. except here sentances for major crime are pathetic.

The truth is in the U.K. the law is. as follows:

A person being attacked by another may defend themselves with as much force that is necessary to save themselves from further harm.

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Being a liberal in TODAYS REAL WORLD DEFINITION is not a good thing in my eyes
Whats that? WTF is that? TODAYS REAL WORLD DEFINITION? The definition of the word liberal is the same today as it was when it was first used.

Either show me a link that says otherwise or take my education and thank me for being so kind as to correct your mistake.

You remind me of King Arthur in Monty Pythons The Holy Grail running round telling everyone he is King of the Brittons. And expecting everyone to take his word for it just because he says he is!

Admitedly there are negative meanings: free from restraint. (may or may not be a good thing);licentious (which certainly isnt) but these are very much in the minority! Whats more important than your understanding of the meaning is that in the opinion of lexicographers, to be liberal is to have positive values not based on judgementalism or narrow-mindedness. Are you a Lexicographer?

I am liberal defined by THE meaning not YOUR meaning. You have no idea what my political views are all I have posted in these threads are moral imperatives so I think I'm better suited to tell you my political stance than you tell me.

And as we are on opposite sides of the pond our political views have no bearing whatsoever on eachothers lives so who gives a flying?
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The only thing you can do is fight back. When the government has no reason to fear you, it has no reason to listen to you either.
And ummm what exactly are you going to do? Are you some kind of revolusionist? No of course you're not. You're just another average Joe that cant accept the world he lives in. Nobody can hear your voice. Its sad but its true.

Be happy you dont live in a war torn or third world famine riddled country. Do you think you would care much about politics then? Or would you concentrate on trying to scavange a scrap of food for your dying baby?
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Thats real funny coming from a guy that lives in a country where you can sue your neighbour because his false eye was pointed in your direction!

Its universally acknowledged that Americas justice system is a joke. As is the U.K. except here sentances for major crime are pathetic.

The truth is in the U.K. the law is. as follows:

A person being attacked by another may defend themselves with as much force that is necessary to save themselves from further harm.



Whats that? WTF is that? TODAYS REAL WORLD DEFINITION? The definition of the word liberal is the same today as it was when it was first used.

Either show me a link that says otherwise or take my education and thank me for being so kind as to correct your mistake.

You remind me of King Arthur in Monty Pythons The Holy Grail running round telling everyone he is King of the Brittons. And expecting everyone to take his word for it just because he says he is!

Admitedly there are negative meanings: free from restraint. (may or may not be a good thing);licentious (which certainly isnt) but these are very much in the minority! Whats more important than your understanding of the meaning is that in the opinion of lexicographers, to be liberal is to have positive values not based on judgementalism or narrow-mindedness. Are you a Lexicographer?

I am liberal defined by THE meaning not YOUR meaning. You have no idea what my political views are all I have posted in these threads are moral imperatives so I think I'm better suited to tell you my political stance than you tell me.
there are many words today in the language that their uses do not reflect the meanings transcribed in the dictionary. That is because the dictionary is slow to add new meanings to the same words and change meanings as the language changes. Liberal USED to mean what your oxford english said it ment. When superleft leaning political parties started calling themselves liberal to try to use that meaning, it took on another meaning in the language. A word is associated with what gives it meaning. That changes over time sometimes. Just because your dictionary hasnt changed what it thinks the meaning is, doesnt mean the language hasnt changed. You britts keep trying to cling to the olde version of your language. Language is fluid, like water, not steadfast like brick and mortar. American english and brittish english are now 2 separate forms of the same language, much like spanish from spain, and spanish from mexico or spanish from cuba are all diffrent, even though they are all "spanish". Dont have the pretense to lecture me about language if you dont understand the basics of language itself and its fluid structure throughout cultures and time. My culture is not yours. If you want to argue meaning, then you are arguing against a wall, because meaning will not change here or there because you want it to, so it fits with your arguement.
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there are many words today in the language that their uses do not reflect the meanings transcribed in the dictionary. That is because the dictionary is slow to add new meanings to the same words and change meanings as the language changes. Liberal USED to mean what your oxford english said it ment. When superleft leaning political parties started calling themselves liberal to try to use that meaning, it took on another meaning in the language. A word is associated with what gives it meaning. That changes over time sometimes. Just because your dictionary hasnt changed what it thinks the meaning is, doesnt mean the language hasnt changed. You britts keep trying to cling to the olde version of your language. Language is fluid, like water, not steadfast like brick and mortar. American english and brittish english are now 2 separate forms of the same language, much like spanish from spain, and spanish from mexico or spanish from cuba are all diffrent, even though they are all "spanish". Dont have the pretense to lecture me about language if you dont understand the basics of language itself and its fluid structure throughout cultures and time. My culture is not yours. If you want to argue meaning, then you are arguing against a wall, because meaning will not change here or there because you want it to, so it fits with your arguement.
Hey buddy I find it hard to understand your language at the best of times but that post was the hardest to date.

Two words, prove it. Its simple ok? Back it up back it up or it loses legitimacy.

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because meaning will not change here or there because you want it to, so it fits with your arguement
Thats more in line with what you are writing. If my interpretation is in the dictionary and your's is not. It does'nt take a clever person to see who it is thats changing meaning to fit into their argument.

You have (despite knowing nothing about me) labelled me as Liberal So here is my label for you. This word suits you. you wear it well.

hypocrite

1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.

2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.
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