the july 1st smoking ban

ten BoB Dylan · 29-06-2007, 12:36 PM

well if your a smoker than it's time to stub it out.
i don't smoke my self but i think this is just an example of the nanny state in action.

i can understand baning smoking in places were food is served or say a movie theater but baning people from smoking in pubs i think goes to far.
how long will it be before they ban smoking altogether and why not stop there lets ban booze while were at it (o i forgot they did that in the us in the 20's for about 14 years i think they called it Prohibition and look how that worked out) not so well i think.

29-06-2007, 01:12 PM

Been in place here for few years, its a great law to have.
safe air for non-smokers, great craic outside(in beer garden and such..) for the smokers

friedkarma · 29-06-2007, 01:22 PM

We've enacted a similar ban in my state, and its great. Even when I still smoked, I didn't mind it. I don't have a problem with legislation that serves the public good.

ten BoB Dylan · 29-06-2007, 01:40 PM

yes but the governments that ban smoking in pub are also the same people who are happy to take the big revenues from packets of cigarette's that are being sold which sound a bit hypocritical to me.
we are living in the nanny state most people are smart enough to make choices for them selfs and should not have governments body telling them what to do.

pneumatic · 29-06-2007, 01:41 PM

I think they are taking it a little too far in places. If you want good air then shut down your factories and send them to China like we do in Michigan.

Kona Palangi · 29-06-2007, 02:35 PM

Karma ... In 2009 it will be federal law that all PRIVATE CLUBS be a smoke free environment. A ****ing PRIVATE club?!?!?! It's prohibition all over again but knowing they cannot outlaw it they legislate it. Also, do you know how much money both the states and Government makes through the sales of tobacco?

friedkarma · 29-06-2007, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MalohiTafataha

Karma ... In 2009 it will be federal law that all PRIVATE CLUBS be a smoke free environment. A ****ing PRIVATE club?!?!?! It's prohibition all over again but knowing they cannot outlaw it they legislate it. Also, do you know how much money both the states and Government makes through the sales of tobacco?

And you mention me by name because...?

Kona Palangi · 29-06-2007, 02:39 PM

Um, you're American? Is that not reason enough for you?!?!

Kona Palangi · 29-06-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by friedkarma

I don't have a problem with legislation that serves the public good.

And this little tidbit of juicy info as well.

friedkarma · 29-06-2007, 02:47 PM

Dude, I'm watching my dad slowly die from smoking when he quit over 20 years ago. If you think I going to waste my time about worrying about people that have to take their stinkerettes outside, you are mistaken.

Kona Palangi · 29-06-2007, 03:01 PM

In a private club? Your fathers smoking issues is a horrible thing but banning smoking in a PRIVATE club is absurd.

29-06-2007, 03:03 PM

Pricate club? i persume thats a lap dancing club or something..

Kona Palangi · 29-06-2007, 03:03 PM

No .... Any club ... Any place of gathering that requires membership.

BRUTAL1TY · 29-06-2007, 03:09 PM

I lost my Uncle to lung cancer, so I understand in some ways what it does to you.

But yeah I have to agree it is absurd as well. Private clubs should have the ability to allow smoking. The country club I work at is pissed off about this because members constantly have to step how ever many feet outside to go smoke. Sure it doesn't require a ton of energy, but for the winter it will suck and smokers should have some place, besides home, where they can sit back, have a cig, and talk with friends.

It's a little too controlling if you ask me.

Kona Palangi · 29-06-2007, 03:30 PM

They are actually speaking of banning smoking while inside your OWN HOME! Serious, depending on the proximity to another home it may be against the law to smoke inside your own house. As far as the clubs, what happened to free enterprise?

ten BoB Dylan · 29-06-2007, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by friedkarma

Dude, I'm watching my dad slowly die from smoking when he quit over 20 years ago. If you think I going to waste my time about worrying about people that have to take their stinkerettes outside, you are mistaken.

dude my dad died of bronchopneumonia with empyema formation (chronic obsructive disease ) 6 weeks ago because of smoking.

now do i think that baning smoking in pubs would have stop this hell no.
it was of his free choice and i am sure that he would not have it any other way.

Pepper Jack · 29-06-2007, 06:22 PM

im glad smoking is being banned over here, smokers have had it their way for too long, if it was something that just affected them then i'd disagree with the ban, but it doesnt just affect them, it affects everyone around them. as non-smokers have to suffer the smell and the dangers of passive smoking just because some inconciderate smoker wants to blow poison all over the room. its about time smoking was banned in public places and if smokers dont like it then they shouldnt have such a disgusting habbit in the first place, maybe its time for them to quit, smoking serves no purpose anyway, there are little or no benefits of being a smoker.

on the other hand, my friend just came back home after a year in Sweden, a place with already has a smoking ban and he says that all the clubs stink of sweat and fart because there is no smoke to cover up the smell

Kona Palangi · 29-06-2007, 10:30 PM

Dude, I am all for not forcing non smokers to sit with smokers but to ban it in a private ****ing club is absurd! The Government should have no say in whether or not your business is a smoking or non smoking establishment PERIOD. You want to talk about habits that affect people? Ask my brother and he'll tell you. Wait a second, he was killed by a drunk driver so obviously he cannot comment. While we are at it let's ban alcohol altogether because how many people die because of drunk drivers each and every year?

remixFA · 29-06-2007, 11:05 PM

im an ex smoker. I stopped right before the ban (just coincidental) that they enacted here in florida. I tell you what.. I know what the non smokers have been bitching about. They say the xsmokers are the biggest complainers because we understand, and its true.
The long winded point.. do i have one?... I'm totally for no smoking in eating places, but for places that serve no food, or are not public, F it, let them smoke. And as far as no smoking in ur own home... ive seen that crap comming.. and its stupid beond stupid. This is not a socialist/communist country.. GET THE FRIK OUT OF MY HOUSE!
Big brother is NOT your friend.

Pepper Jack · 30-06-2007, 01:39 AM

yeah i think that smokers should be able to smoke in their own home but not if there are children around, if there are children in the home maybe you should have a separate den type room where the children arent allowed and smoke in there, making non-smokers breathe your cancerous smoke is wrong, end of. as far as the private clubs go i'm not sure, i suppose if every patron of that club was a smoker then fair enough but if there are non-smokers there then they shouldnt have to breathe that disgusting smoke