Why game pirates should be burned at the steak

rabbitc · 30-04-2008, 03:00 PM

GTA IV could be most expensive game ever made - Joystiq

Take note please...and beat the living f'ck out of anyone you know that rips off great companies like R*.

Jacksmith28 · 30-04-2008, 04:09 PM

I hate pirates, I really do. Someday they will put people out of work.

friedkarma · 30-04-2008, 04:54 PM

I don't have a problem with paying for something if I want it, but I'll bet each and every person that detests game piracy has songs and videos on their computer that they didn't pay for (except me, i lost all my **** when my computer blew up LOL).

7thdeadlysin · 30-04-2008, 06:46 PM

I don't think of it as a huge crime, but it is kinda bull that the rest of us have to pay for it. And I think you mean stake, lol.

Jacksmith28 · 30-04-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 7thdeadlysin

stake

lol I missed that...

And karma your right but I got out of that a while ago. CDs are soo cheap anyway

Kona Palangi · 30-04-2008, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by friedkarma

I don't have a problem with paying for something if I want it, but I'll bet each and every person that detests game piracy has songs and videos on their computer that they didn't pay for (except me, i lost all my **** when my computer blew up LOL).

It's called selective piracy.

Blasterpez · 30-04-2008, 10:09 PM

ah, pirates as in illegal downloads and such. Here i thought it was about blackbeard and sir francis drake.

i stopped downloading music when they started sending out the warrants to the napster machine people. but i guess they were mainly focusing on people who shared rather then downloaded, and since i didn't play nice and share, i think i am relatively safe. However, i can say that through downloading off of kazaa, i found many new types of music i would never have tried if i had to shell 16 bucks out for on it cd. and i bought plenty of cd's from artists i found off kazaa.

never had a pirated game on pc or console, though.

Mmmmm, steak.

bevo1981 · 01-05-2008, 01:43 AM

A1 sauce
wait, is this not the word association thread?

rabbitc · 01-05-2008, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by friedkarma

I don't have a problem with paying for something if I want it, but I'll bet each and every person that detests game piracy has songs and videos on their computer that they didn't pay for (except me, i lost all my **** when my computer blew up LOL).

Not me.
Although I will say that music is overpriced. It does not cost 100mil to produce a music album. It doesn't even cost 5mil. Anyone who says it does is defending the ridiculous payoffs for ego-inflated rejects like Amy Crackhouse and Snoop Doggypants. It shouldn't be free - but there's no way that a 128kbs tune should be worth £.079 or even $0.99.

On the film side - I am a staunch collector and every single film I have is 100% genuine and paid for. Unlike music, films DO cost enormous amounts of cash and I want to continue to see big-budget films like Lord of the Rings continue to be made.

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And I think you mean stake, lol.

Quite right Lol...idiot moment. I wrote this just before dinner - that'll teach me.

Pepper Jack · 01-05-2008, 07:15 AM

haha rabbit, how did i know that you made this thread when i saw the title? lol

and piracy on a mass scale bothers me, but games are a rip off here as it is, if they cost like under £30 like in america i'd buy more, but beacuse they are so expensive here the only reason that i've not turned to piracy if because i'm too afraid of getting my console banned from live

rabbitc · 01-05-2008, 08:25 AM

I agree PJ - priced-to-market strategies are unfair and greedy.

Spartan1127 · 01-05-2008, 01:36 PM

Games here are $120. $120!!!

I've never had a pirated game before, but like i said, i'm seriously thinking about it. However, i'm afraid of getting banned from live.

But I wouldn't mind modding my gamecube or something because its NTSC and over here everything is PAL (and there are a few awesome games on gamecube). I mean, it's a gamecube, big ****ing deal.

bevo1981 · 01-05-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rabbitc

Not me.
Although I will say that music is overpriced. It does not cost 100mil to produce a music album. It doesn't even cost 5mil. Anyone who says it does is defending the ridiculous payoffs for ego-inflated rejects like Amy Crackhouse and Snoop Doggypants. It shouldn't be free - but there's no way that a 128kbs tune should be worth £.079 or even $0.99.

i'm not defending anyone here, but albums do cost a lot to produce. and a lot of albums can take up to a year in the studio. most of your top Billboard talents easily put in over a mil just to make an album. and record companies don't usually make much profit on record sales anyway since you can't always have your album go platinum. it's mostly a good gauge as to how much they will make from touring where the real money is made. and i like the $0.99 downloadable songs because most people don't want every song on a record. so you get to pick and choose and actually spend a lot less than buying the whole thing.

rabbitc · 01-05-2008, 03:04 PM

bullsh*t

A year in the studio for 1-5 members of a music group is sh*tpence - if they make 100,000quid each they should count their blessings.

Their money is made in record sales.
If they make crap - they get crap. That's how it should work (that's how it bloody used to work anyway)

There is absolutely ZERO reason why we should pay the same for a music album as we would for a film or a video game. ZERO! NADA! ZILCH! ZIPPO!

Bring back the real artists and send the money-whoring retards back to hell where they came from. (along with their producers)

That is all.
Here endeth the lesson.

01-05-2008, 03:11 PM

It may cost less to make a music album, but it also costs alot to market it. Regardless of all costing, music piracy costs the music industry millions more than game piracy costs the gaming industy. Music piracy is much more widespread and music itself is inifnetly more popular than gaming.

Spartan1127 · 01-05-2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir Charles

It may cost less to make a music album, but it also costs alot to market it. Regardless of all costing, music piracy costs the music industry millions more than game piracy costs the gaming industy. Music piracy is much more widespread and music itself is inifnetly more popular than gaming.

Well said, Charles.

Kona Palangi · 01-05-2008, 03:54 PM

I doubt any GTA piracy will topple the Double T empire. Those who pirated early copies are merely a drop of water in the ocean. Using the Gears of War model for base comparison, Grand Theft Auto IV has grossed roughly (estimation) $23,751,000.00 dollars via art, programming, and retail alone - on it's first day available no less. Furthermore, this is excluding all additional sales outside the UK which pushed 609,000 units. Suffice it to say, Rock* will be just fine. Publishers and developers could easily reduce end consumer cost and maintain profitability but gamers have accepted the current price as the standard. I wouldn't be surprised if GTA broke numerous financial records with the latest installment alone.

As far as the music industry is concerned, one of the central tenets behind the RIAA's attempt at suppressing P2P music sharing was because the college students struck a gold mine and the music industry wanted to claim rights. They utilized scare tactics and legal measures to delay its spread while they were in back room negotiations hammering out lucrative deals to provide specific services with their IP. since the dust has settled we have Zune, iTunes, Napster, Rhapsody and many others offering identical services now that the record labels (not the artists per se) have been "fairly" compensated.

Blasterpez · 01-05-2008, 05:47 PM

Like rabbit said, i think 99 cents is to much to for a song. but my reason would be that you get crappy 128k. If you are gonna pay for a song, they should give you the option to download loss-less.