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It's just the way he and Anderson carried himself in that interview caspey. It came off as ****y.. Where does he got off saying that he could beat the best heavyweight in the world when your 2 whole weight divisions under the guy. I've heard it before off of BJ Penn, when he was calling out GSP. GSP is a beast and cuts to get into the WW division, so that's a perfect example of a great champion fighting another great champion nearly 2 weight divisions more than him.

What happened? GSP handled the great BJ "The Prodigy" Penn like a rag doll. Because of the size difference. BJ's a natural light weight, he shouldn't move up in weight just to prove himself. Aoki(one of the P4P best, and 2nd best light weight) moved up in weight to fight, and he even got handled. I guess what I'm trying to get at is each fighter is great in their respective divisions, but it's a whole 'nother ball park when you move up in weight. Something that Anderson and Machida has seem to forgotten.

I know now Machida seems thankful and humble after he won the belt, on UFC.com interviews, and in person. He'll probably always will because he doesn't speak english and will always look to promote himself well to American fans, Same as Anderson. But I don't like their insight in interviews they give to various MMA websites/magazines. They come off as ****y man.
You don't ever hear Fedor saying, "I can't lose," "No one can defend my style," or "I can beat other P4P fighters." You don't hear him say anything like that in interviews or anything because he seems genuinely humble 100% of the time.

And Mir isn't the UFC Heavyweight Champion. He's Interim. Brock Lesnar holds the true UFC Heavyweight title. They will collide though and Mir will have a chance at it. I think Brock is going to be the unified champion, unless he gets screwed over like he did last time against Mir.

[Caspel]

Originally Posted by hedaikes

It's just the way he and Anderson carried himself in that interview caspey. It came off as ****y.. Where does he got off saying that he could beat the best heavyweight in the world when your 2 whole weight divisions under the guy. I've heard it before off of BJ Penn, when he was calling out GSP. GSP is a beast and cuts to get into the WW division, so that's a perfect example of a great champion fighting another great champion nearly 2 weight divisions more than him.

What happened? GSP handled the great BJ "The Prodigy" Penn like a rag doll. Because of the size difference. BJ's a natural light weight, he shouldn't move up in weight just to prove himself. Aoki(one of the P4P best, and 2nd best light weight) moved up in weight to fight, and he even got handled. I guess what I'm trying to get at is each fighter is great in their respective divisions, but it's a whole 'nother ball park when you move up in weight. Something that Anderson and Machida has seem to forgotten.

I know now Machida seems thankful and humble after he won the belt, on UFC.com interviews, and in person. He'll probably always will because he doesn't speak english and will always look to promote himself well to American fans, Same as Anderson. But I don't like their insight in interviews they give to various MMA websites/magazines. They come off as ****y man.
You don't ever hear Fedor saying, "I can't lose," "No one can defend my style," or "I can beat other P4P fighters." You don't hear him say anything like that in interviews or anything because he seems genuinely humble 100% of the time.

And Mir isn't the UFC Heavyweight Champion. He's Interim. Brock Lesnar holds the true UFC Heavyweight title. They will collide though and Mir will have a chance at it. I think Brock is going to be the unified champion, unless he gets screwed over like he did last time against Mir.

I view Mir as the champion Brock still has a lot to prove to the world in this next match.

Fedor doesn't speak to the press like that because he has a bunch of Russian mob men doing all his talking for him haha.

Machida walks around probably at 225. He'd easily be able to face off against Fedor in a match and I'd favor Machida to win that. I wouldn't favor A. Silva against Fedor though.

Machida and A. Silva hardly talk trash compared to fighters such as Matt Hughes, Tito Ortiz, Frank Shamrock, Rashad, Rampage, Diaz Bros, Sylvia, etc. They have the right to talk trash since they are on long win streaks with no one offering any competition -- the others, such as Tito, have no room to talk.

So until Machida and A. Silva are served some "humble pie" -- which I don't think is needed since they don't talk the amount of trash talk in comparison to American fighters -- they can run their mouths all they like.

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Yeah, true I guess Caspey.. I guess it's easier for me to dislike them more since I already dislike them to begin with.

Speaking of a mob controlling a fighter.. Did you ever hear why PrideFC went under? It's because they lost their funding and major Japanese sponsorships after they found out the Yakuza owned PrideFC. I think the Japanese refused to broadcast any of their shows. Dana White then came along and made them an offer. That's what I heard at least.

I hear one thing Fedor always wants in his contract is that whenever he fights he wants himself and a posse of 16-22 people to be accounted for by the organization like food, travel and lodging. Something Dana White said was ludicrous.

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Season 10 coaches for the Ultimate Fighter Season 10 Announced!

It's going to be:


Quinton "Rampage" Jackson

-and-


"Sugar" Rashad Evans

These guys are going to coach the next TUF season. Surprisingly they didn't go with Lyoto Machida after it was inferred by White that the winner of the Light Heavyweight championship match would coach alongside with Rampage. But I guess they went with the Evans-Jackson grudge match first.


After Rampage beat Rashad's Friend, Keith Jardine

I for one think Rashad Evans doesn't deserves a chance to get his title once again, so soon at least. None of the previous champions ever got a chance like this. But I guess ratings will great with these two and it'll be something everyone wants to watch. Plus you have the 2nd and 3rd best light heavyweights in the world facing off against each other.

This season of TUF will include Heavyweights, something it hasn't done since Season 2, where Jardine and Evans came from.

The season will conclude on December 5 of this year, which will be The Ultimate Fighter Finale Season 10. The Coaches should face off soon there after, Winner getting a title shot to fight Lyoto Machida sometime in the future.

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that sounds exciting. I can not wait to watch that, and I personally like gsp. I have nothing against him just Machida. It is a personal preference I guess I mean I know he is generous outside the octagon and a champion inside of it but come on at some point in time have you not ever said I personally do not like this fighter for one reason or another?

that being said. Mir and Brock fight is going to be epic.

[Caspel]

Originally Posted by hedaikes

Yeah, true I guess Caspey.. I guess it's easier for me to dislike them more since I already dislike them to begin with.

Speaking of a mob controlling a fighter.. Did you ever hear why PrideFC went under? It's because they lost their funding and major Japanese sponsorships after they found out the Yakuza owned PrideFC. I think the Japanese refused to broadcast any of their shows. Dana White then came along and made them an offer. That's what I heard at least.

I hear one thing Fedor always wants in his contract is that whenever he fights he wants himself and a posse of 16-22 people to be accounted for by the organization like food, travel and lodging. Something Dana White said was ludicrous.

Yeah, Fedor's management wanted the UFC to sign up to 7-8 Red Devil members, help build a stadium in Russia, let them co-promote an event in Russia and put it on Russian PPV for no charge, and letting Fedor fight in Sambo whenever he wants to.

So Dana White and the UFC didn't allow that.

As for the Pride FC and mob connections, yeah, it's a shame they went down like they did.

Rampage is being lambasted by members on the net claiming he's ducking Machida, and if he is, I don't blame him. When I interviewed Rampage, he said he hated coaching on TUF since he hates the schedule and how it takes away from his chance to fight more often. Well he's back to coaching, so the money must be good.

Machida is supposedly fighting Shogun for his 1st title defense.

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OMG dude.. I don't think Shogun's ready for that yet. His chances are small man. I think Shogun would be ready for a championship fight in a fight or 2. Just so he gets used to the cage, the rules, and to help with his training. I don't think he's going to take it as serious as he needs to. From what I read, most the Brazilian fighters(former chute boxe academy fighters and friends of them) are really lazy and restless in training.

I think Rampage got a nice fat check from Dana to do TUF. He did just have another baby. I think he missed the birth when he was training for his last fight. He wanted to fight Evans anyways. He's expressed in interviews that he really got upset when Evans went in the cage and confronted him like that after he had beaten "The Dean of Mean" Keith Jardine.

Also I think this would pull more ratings than Machida/Rampage. Many people would like to see small confrontations amongst these two fighters in the show. I don't think he was dodging Lyoto either; He accepted being a coach for TUF before they had even decided who the other coach was going to be. Dana White made it seem like the winner of the Light Heavyweight Championship bout would fill that empty coach spot. I honestly think he did it for the money, which is cool. I would have done the same.. Gotta get paid, right?

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This has been conformed for a few days now.. but the newest addition to the UFC welterweight roster is...

Frank "Twinkle Toes" Trigg

Frankie's coming back to the UFC. He's been fighting in other organizations and even did some pro wrestling in TNA. Last time we seen him in the UFC, he got handled by both Matt Hughes and George St. Pierre, but since he became the Icon Sport Middleweight Champion and has won 7 of his last 9 fights, winning the last 4.

Dana White has rumered to have negotiated and sealed the deal with a great middleweight talent to contest Anderson Silva for his belt, and although Frank Trigg has fought at middleweight before, I doubt this is the guy. Trigg as expressed that he's only wants to fight at welterweight and possibly lightweight for the remainder of his career. So I wonder who that other guy's going to be.

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As some of you may already know, Shogun Rua has met with UFC President Dana White in their offices located in Las Vegas this past tuesday.

Picture of Dana White and Shogun @ UFC Las Vegas this Past Tuesday

It is said that they discussed the possibility for Shogun to Fight Light Heavyweight Champion Lyoto "The Dragon" Machida. for the Headlining bout at UFC 103 on September 26 of this year.

I think it's too early to give Shogun a title shot, as I have already expressed earlier to the possibility. He's going to get destroyed by Machida. He has a fighter's chance as everyone does going into the octagon which is slim at best, but I don't think he'll prevail. Hopefully he does, I'll be rooting for him regardless. If Shogun's truly "back" he has more than a slim chance, and if it was PrideFC rules and it was back in the day, I'd know Shogun will win for sure


Also featured on the same card are: Hermes Franca and Patrick Cote, who's opponents are to be determined and Efrain Escudero vs. Cole Miller.

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The show will take place on August 1st of this year and it's headlining bout will be the long awaited fight between Josh "The Baby Faced Assassin" Barnett vs. "The Last Emperor" Fedor Emelianenko.

Fedor holds the WAMMA World Heavyweight title, which is a prestigious title, and could be defended within any organization that acknowledges it. They of course unify the title of the organization it's being defended in. The WAMMA slogan is "One Belt One King."

The only other WAMMA title holder is Shinya Aoki, which fights in DREAM and he holds the WAMMA Lightweight title. The vacant Middleweight title was on the line a week ago when Jason "Mayhem" Miller fought Ronaldo de Souza but it ended in a no contest early in the 1st when Miller illegally soccer/football kicked Souza in the head when he was on the floor.

Affliction "Trilogy" should turn out to be a great show.. here's whats rumored to be the rest of the card:

* Vitor Belfort vs. Gegard Mousasi
* Paul Buentello vs. Tim Sylvia
* Paul Daley vs. Jay Hieron
* Chris Horodecki vs. Dan Lauzon
* Renato "Babalu" Sobral vs. TBA
* Ben Rothwell vs. TBA
* Mark Hominick vs. TBA

Maybe Babalu and Tito Ortiz will fight. That would be swell.

[Jimmy Mojache]

Originally Posted by hedaikes

I'm guessing not too good.. Maybe how it smells like.. I sure as **** wouldn't drink it unless I had no other choice. Like if I was lost at sea with nothing but a rubber raft, those kind of circumstances.

Salty water > Piss

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lol jimmy. If it was drink your piss for under a week and get rescued, or die drinking salt water before you could get rescued, which would you choose? I'd do it and say, "It's sterile, and I like the way it tastes." to the news people, lol.

I don't think I'd be able to stomach it though. I do have an iron stomach, but I don't know man, I think if it tastes how it smells and it's really strong and has a thick aroma, I'd vomit.

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As you all know the main event of UFC 99 will be Rich "Ace" Franklin to face off against "The Axe Murderer" Wanderlei Silva in a catch weight of 195lbs at UFC 99.

What I didn't know is that long time rival of Franklin, and the sole reason he moved back up to light heavyweight, Anderson Silva invited Franklin to train with him against Anderson's former Chute Boxe team mate Wanderlei.

This is Rich Franklin vs. Anderson Silva, 2nd fight.

Anderson voice his opinion about his former team mate, Wanderlei moving down to 185 in an interview; It was harsh and critical. It seems he takes Wanderlei as the threat he really is. Who better to knock you silly than a former team mate and friend that knows A LOT about you, right? And Wanderlei got upset at the comments his former team mate said about him moving down to the middleweight division.

It seems Anderson is taking every measure to ensure Wanderlei will not meet him for his title, in taking it long time rival Rich Franklin in and showing him how to beat The Axe Murderer. It was rumored when Anderson and Wanderlei sparred at Chute Boxe, it was always full contact MMA wars; They would even knock each other out from time to time. So this hatred stems pretty deep.

Anderson and Wanderlei as team mates in Chute Boxe

In my opinion, if Wanderlei can get through Franklin, that will automatically put him in top contention for the Middleweight title, having beaten a former champion, and someone who is ranked 3rd Middleweight in the world in Rich Franklin. He would probably get his shot before any of the TUF season 9 coaches do.

Wanderlei has said once he beats Rich Franklin, he will call out Anderson and say he wants his belt. I am pulling for Wanderlei on this one, I really want to see Silva vs. Silva grudge match.

[Jimmy Mojache]

Originally Posted by hedaikes

lol jimmy. If it was drink your piss for under a week and get rescued, or die drinking salt water before you could get rescued, which would you choose? I'd do it and say, "It's sterile, and I like the way it tastes." to the news people, lol.

I don't think I'd be able to stomach it though. I do have an iron stomach, but I don't know man, I think if it tastes how it smells and it's really strong and has a thick aroma, I'd vomit.

Make a mix - die slower.

Salty water + Piss = Nice and sterile piss that has salt. Just like eating horrible food, just add salt and its all good!

[hedaikes]

lol jimmy you actually can do that I think. I've only read it with water tho. if you mix it in a 4 part ratio and drink 3 cups seawater and 1 cup fresh water someone can live off that for a while. Although I'm not too sure about piss since I don't know it's sodium content and what not, but it seems like it would work.

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Just dropping by to drop some tid bits that's been going on in MMA in the past couple days.

First off Xavier Foupa-Pokam "Professor X" has been released by the UFC after his second straight lose in about a month in the octagon. His most recent lose was at UFC 98 to Drew "The Massacre" McFedries and lost a month ago at UFC 97 to Denis Kang.

Good bye Prof. X

onto bigger news:
Vitor Belfort Will not face off against Gegard Mousasi in Afflictions Trilogy show as originally planned. Belfort has expressed that he is not interested in fighting in any weight class other than Middleweight, the bout was scheduled to be in the Light Heavyweight division. Renato "Babalu" Sobral has stepped up to the plate and will now face the former DREAM Middleweight Champion, Gegard Mousasi, who took moving up in weight seriously and relinquished in DREAM Middleweight title before DREAM 9.

Vs.

And Lastly:
Kevin Ferguson, also known to many people as Kimbo Slice will be amongst the 16 Heavyweights to participate in this end of the year's The Ultimate Fighter on spikeTV. This is very exciting to watch. 20 bucks says he's going to be first pick, and 100 says he's going to win the whole thing.

What do you guys think?

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In the spirit of keeping this thread alive and speaking my mind about MMA, STRIKEFORCE will have a card this weekend, and it has 5 fights that should be enough to make any hardcore MMA junkie want to watch the show.

Today, there will be 5 fights worth watching on Showtime. They are:

Phil Baroni vs. Joe Riggs

Mike Whitehead vs. Kevin Randleman


Nick Diaz vs. Scott Smith


*Andrei Arlovski vs. Brett Rogers*

And Finally, The Main Event


"Ruthless" Robbie Lawler vs. Jake Shields

I bet you guys can't tell where I got the pics from

All these fights should be great, the card is filled with more fights, but these I felt are going to be the ones worth watching. Again the show is tonight(Saturday 6/6/2009) @ 7pm Pacific and 10pm Eastern. Be sure to watch it, it's going to be on Showtime.

I will post results later if anyone is interested.

(my prediction)
The fighters I want to win are: Baroni, Randleman, Diaz, Arlovski and Lawler. and I'm really interested to see how Bret Rogers does against Arlovski, so far he's undefeated but has only faced his first real challenge(IMO) in his last fight against Ron Humphrey, we'll see how he does against a former UFC World Heavyweight Champion.

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Strikeforce was a really good card. On paper it looked better than the WEC on Sunday, but you can't really count out these lightweights because they're unknown. they put on a awesome card too.

Well as for strikeforce, Joe Riggs beat Phil Baroni, Whitehead beat Randleman. These where awesome fights, Riggs waited for Baroni to gas like he always does to out strike him and win 30-27 on all score cards. Randleman out wrestled Randleman and was in danger of losing the fight via TKO in the 3rd but Randleman didn't capitalize and it slipped from him 29-28 on all score cards for Whitehead.

Brett Rogers annihilated Arlovski in the first few seconds of the first round, Arlovski never covers up when he's back peddling and this time it cost him BIG. Bret Rogers wins via TKO victory. From the replay it looked like Arlovski was out cold, but he was ok thanks to Big John.

Nick Diaz put on a clinic and beat Scott Smith Completely out boxing him the whole match, I think he through something like 600 punches at him in the first 2 rounds, then played with him a bit in the third and then choked him out with an arm in rear naked choke. Diaz was being Diaz the whole fight, refusing to touch gloves with him. He even smacked Smith's hands away from him in the third making Smith mad. In the first, Diaz with a total disrespect to Smith's KO power, dropped his hands numerous times and stuck his chin out and said "C'mon, hit me." It was wild. He does remind me of a young Frank Shamrock.

And Finally Ruthless Robbie Lawler lost to Jake Shields. The fight was contested at catch weight so it wasn't for Lawler's Middleweight championship, but it might as well have been, the weight was 182, instead of 185. Shields caught Lawler in a guillotine choke after Lawler had gotten to comfortable in his thai clinch. Good job by Shields, he should move up in weight and fight for Lawler's belt and actually take it this time.

As for the WEC, it was a great card and every fight was freakin awesome. There was a flash KO in the first seconds of the first round by Jose Aldo. Beautiful double flying knee right in the dome. And Faber lost to Brown again, but Brown couldn't knock him out. Faber claims he broke his right hand in the 1st round and wants to fight Brown again, I say he needs to get over it already, he needs to move down in weight, or go to the UFC if he thinks he can handle bigger people. He shouldn't move up in weight though, he got physically dominated by brown. And Jens Pulver lost, and claimed it was his last fight and he was retiring. That's about all that happened there.

[Caspel]

for the next TUF, they have
1. Marcus Jones (6'6" former NFL player for the Buccaneers)
2. "Big Country" Roy Nelson,
3. Justin Wren (10 State Championships as in high school for wrestling -- only 22),
4. Wes Sim (the same guy who stomped Frank Mir on the ground, 22-11-1 in MMA. 6'10" 265lbs)
5. Matt Mitrione (6'2", 265 played for the New York Giants for 9 games. 0-0 in MMA)
6. Brendan Schaub (6'4", training partner of Shane Carwin. Drafted by Buffalo Bills but didn't play. 4-0 in MMA)
7. Wes Shivers (6'7". Played for the Atlanta Falcons in 2000.)
8. Darrill Schoonover (6'2" 225 lbs. 10-0 in MMA)
9. Abe Wagner (6'1" 260lbs. 6-1 in MMA)

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Nice, good post caspel! I wonder who the other 6 are, I know Kimbo is one of them. It is going to be 16 Heavyweights, correct?

I hear something big went down when they where taping it last week. Maybe Kimbo got kicked off because he was on Dana's Video Blog on youtube for the WEC event, and this is suppose to be the 2nd week already. It showed him in a filtered camera style so you really can't make out anything but his face. But if it's the second week already maybe he got eliminated for doing something stupid like hitting someone.

Good to see Wes Sims back. I haven't really seen him since Mir knocked him out in the rematch they had since he got disqualified the first time. Wonder if he's still loppy in his stand up.