PS3 dominant this year? - Page 6

IIJoshIII · 13-03-2008, 03:10 PM

Fortunz, it's common courtesy to supply cliff notes with long ass posts!

Spartan1127 · 13-03-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fortunzfavor

Presently, it Blows chunks. There are very few games that bother including the service, and all but one include the hated Friend Code system (12 and 16 digit codes)--requiring you to provide DNA evidence that you actually know someone before playing with them. Of course, FCs actually provide less safety for kiddos than a system that encourages parental monitoring. And they're mandatory for everyone, even if you were cussing blue streaks before most of Nintendo's execs were born. Kids get around the system by trading codes with friends online (gee, I wonder when predators will figure out how to use that to their advantage?). Adults get faced with the notion of coming home from a long days work, and then having to put in several more hours mining the net for codes before they can friggin play a video game.

When you are allowed to play random, non-FC matches, they get even more limited. If there's any means of communication (there's usually none--Brawl comes with a few user editable "taunts"), it's cut off. Any type of ID gets removed, so you don't know who you're humiliating. Even Nintendo's Marquee game of the Generation, Brawl, doesn't have leaderboards. On Brawl, when you play a random match, you don't get to alter game settings, you get stuck with a match style you may well hate.

Of course, to date, there is no voice com of any kind. Nintendo is presently developing an unconventional (and yet unseen) headset that will allow parents to listen in on their kid's conversations. 3rd parties will likely provide a normal headset shortly thereafter. What use it will get and what hoops we'll have to jump to actually be able to use it remain to be seen.

DLC isn't used in games for the most part, though you can download custom stages for Brawl. You can make them too, but without IGN's stage sharing service, you would only be able to trade yours with people whose friend code you have. One reason DLC has been rare (GHIII Wii didn't have it) is because 512mbs is pretty limited, and Nintendo has insisted for more than a year that we won't get any more (when all that's required is a driver so people can plug thumb drives in the back--at this point, most people would be thrilled if the Wii would play from the SD card), and when we run out of space for VC games and WiiWare titles, we should (Nintendo's words) delete the ones we're not playing and Redownload them later (they said this without cracking a smile). Despite being told how idiotic that is, they stand by it. Developers haven't wanted to invest in making such content if people aren't going to be able to use it, since it won't really function as a selling point in that instance and it's money down the drain.

A few weeks ago however, a new subscription flavor (previously, we got this crap for free, and it was still over-priced) of "Nintendo WiFi" was announced, so on a per-game basis, developers will be able to charge for access to online content as well as charge for extras in games. A announcement of DLC was also made, and most suspect it will be tied mainly to the subscription service or to transactions in game.

Medal of Honor Heroes 2 is the single best online experience on Wii. That's saying something very bad about Wii. They skipped Nintendo's online service and used their own EA Nation service. No friend codes, which is nice, but no comm except useless quickchats (in game, and a slightly longer list of quickchats between games in EA Messenger). 32 player limit per server would make for some great tactical games (actually it does, lots of clans use PC VC like TS, skype, and gamestreet to compensate--IGN sometimes jokes about using Live! for VC during Wii games), but the lack of comm makes it hard to get that outside of clans. The messenger and Friend List is so worthless, you can message someone to come to your game, but you can't tell them which game you're in. The only way they can find you is to go to the lobby, and one-by-one go through dozens of server's players lists looking for your name. By the time they'd find you, you'd be done and gone. People of course use the net to get their friends in the same game, but it's pretty bloody simple feature not to have in game. Server performance was super smooth at the beginning. You could play cross continent 20+ player games with no noticeable lag. More recently, people are noticing more and more lag, so I'm guessing EA decided we didn't deserve so much bandwidth and server space.

Brawl, despite having been delayed multiple times for months, and despite everyone expecting to be the best selling game of the Wii lifespan, debuted to serious lag issues--the unplayable game kind. People were suggesting for a while that they only play people in their own city (because that's not inconvenient at all).

Fortunz, can I use you to write my english essays, please? PM me ASAP. lolz

hollywood21639 · 13-03-2008, 04:59 PM

Allow me to sum up: Fortunz said if you want to play games online buy an Xbox 360, cuz the Wii is crap.

Nice post Fortunz

You've made me want a Wii EVEN less!! (how that's possible I don't know

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Desire to own Wii before post: 0
Desire to own Wii after post: -1,000,000

Pepper Jack · 13-03-2008, 05:14 PM

i'm so not reading that right now lol, i'll bookmark it

fortunzfavor · 13-03-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by IIJoshIII

Fortunz, it's common courtesy to supply cliff notes with long ass posts!

Last time I cliffed for you, you didn't even say "thank you".

See hollywood's sum up--except don't hate the Wii. It's innocent. Hate Nintendo.

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The industry is very unpredictable this generation and MS's attempt at aligning themselves with the Wii to compete with Sony is well known.

I'd be thrilled with that. I don't see Nintendo reversing their policies though. They been pushing FCs on the DS for years, often a different code for each game. That they've held to that insanity for so long makes it a little hard to hope.

On the other hand, they have the subscription service coming (however poorly structured), they gave in on the headset even though they previously told us we didn't need one (even though DS users apparently did), and they're making a push on WiiWare and retail DLC. They're capable of some change.

IIJoshIII · 13-03-2008, 06:51 PM

Sorry :/ I didn't notice that you cliffed it!

Blasterpez · 13-03-2008, 07:27 PM

MOH heros 2 is the one game i played online with the wii. and boy, did it look bad. but no lag, as far as i remembered, like fortunz said.
i want to try Resident Evil 4 on the wii, heard good things about it.

Kona Palangi · 13-03-2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fortunzfavor

I'd be thrilled with that. I don't see Nintendo reversing their policies though. They been pushing FCs on the DS for years, often a different code for each game. That they've held to that insanity for so long makes it a little hard to hope.

If the Wii bubble bursts and more users convert to an actual "next generation" console, I'm fairly certain Nintendo will do anything in their power to reclaim its dominance. You can only sustain a large user base with only a handful of marquee IP's before the monotony grows tiresome.

fortunzfavor · 13-03-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Blasterpez

MOH heros 2 is the one game i played online with the wii. and boy, did it look bad. but no lag, as far as i remembered, like fortunz said.

Did you get a chance to mess with the settings? Shrink the bounding box to a minimum, max the aiming sensitivity and the horizontal turn rate, and you can move in that game with spot-on precision. It's PC accuracy without hunching over a mouse.

Blasterpez · 13-03-2008, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by fortunzfavor

Did you get a chance to mess with the settings? Shrink the bounding box to a minimum, max the aiming sensitivity and the horizontal turn rate, and you can move in that game with spot-on precision. It's PC accuracy without hunching over a mouse.

nah, i had only rented the game for a night. your suggestions might have made the game a lot more enjoyable, however. plus i just died a lot and couldn't kill anyone, so i didn't put a whole lot of time into it.
i recently moved my sensor bar from the top of the TV to the bottom...made a world of difference as far as sensitivity and how far i can sit from the tv now.

fortunzfavor · 14-03-2008, 12:19 AM

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i recently moved my sensor bar from the top of the TV to the bottom...made a world of difference as far as sensitivity and how far i can sit from the tv now.

I told my Wii my sensor bar was on the bottom, but I keep it on the top. The result is that I can rest my hands without interfering with my aiming (otherwise I wouldn't be able to target the bottom of the screen without lifting my arm to angle my wrist down). Given how tight the controls are, resting my hands also lets me make more precise movements.

It's a tough game to jump into months after release. Some people have already racked up 500 hours of play time, and they all have their perfect settings tried and true. Try unranked servers if you ever rent again. It'll give you the chance get your bearings before the rank whores dogpile on you. A good CTF (without FF) game is also a good place to start, where you have some teammates covering you, gives you time to learn the environment and the quirks of each weapon.

Blasterpez · 14-03-2008, 08:27 PM

fortunz, you sound like you know your way around the wii. have any good games to recommend? i got soul caliber, full swing golf, and, um...CSI:Hard Evidence...

as for live games, i'll stick with the 360. i didn't get a nintendo to play online, more for groups of friends.

maybe we should start another thread for wii games, so this one can get back to PS3 stuff.

Blank · 15-03-2008, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Blasterpez

fortunz, you sound like you know your way around the wii. have any good games to recommend? i got soul caliber, full swing golf, and, um...CSI:Hard Evidence...

You don't have Mario Galaxy? It's the single best game released this generation, possibly worth the price of a Wii alone.

fortunzfavor · 15-03-2008, 02:18 PM

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maybe we should start another thread for wii games, so this one can get back to PS3 stuff.

That ship has probably sailed.

Right now best we can do is frame someone else for taking it OT. I blame Hollywood. If he hasn't posted here, then I blame pepper.

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Pepper Jack · 15-03-2008, 02:24 PM

my bad yo

Blasterpez · 15-03-2008, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Blank

You don't have Mario Galaxy? It's the single best game released this generation, possibly worth the price of a Wii alone.

you know... for having owned every system that nintendo has ever made, including handhelds, i have never really liked the platforming mario games. i like most other mario games, especially the sports ones (super strikers is big fun). i suppose that is weird since mario is the bread and butter of nintendo (but then again, i don't care for halo much and that is kind of xbox's thing).
i have heard good things about galaxy...i'll have to rent it.

and fortunz, i'll check out that thread. Thanks!

Pepper, we'll let it go this time, seeing as it was your birthday and all.