PS3 Graphics...! - Page 3

dusemike · 17-10-2005, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pApA SmerF01

colors washed out? this isn't an inkjet printer my friend.

there's still a huge difference, it can render all it wants, but it still cant do anti-aliasing at the same time, so while i'll be enjoying seemless lines AND color, you'll be looking at last-gen anti-aliasing with more polygons...oooo, i'm so jealous of you.

Sure the ps3 CAN do anti-aliasing, but not at the same time as High def. rendering.

Why do you persist in this argument that you can't win? oh well, i guess that's what being a playstation fanboy is all about.

Continue if you must, on to your eventual failure.

hdr is not high def rendering its high dynamic range lighting.ps3 can do128bit hdr and360 can only do32bit hdr.im not a ps fanboy i own xbox ps2 gc and soon to get xbox360...

GamePlaya4Life · 17-10-2005, 04:07 PM

How much is the PS3?

Aquanox · 17-10-2005, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dusemike

ps3 is the most powerful system ever made.xbox360 can only do 500million polygons per second, ps3 can do 32billion polygons per second.the cpu in the xbox360 can not render polygons only the gpu.the cell chip and the rsx can render polygons at a super 32billion per second.

Go ask Quake's Carmak about how good the Cell is to help rendering the graphics: "Not much".

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thats why ps3 games look better than xbox360 games.

There's no real gameplay to compare with so you can make such a claim. If Sony keep hiding behind Pre-Rendered stuff, and cinametic animations, there must be a good reason to do so.

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microsoft can not say the cpu in the xbox360 is more powerful than the cell chip because ibm made both chips.ibm said the cell chip can not be touched in raw power.

You should be aware that Raw Power ony reall means literaly something in Single Core CPUs. In a Processor with 1 core and 7 (or 8) SPEs, this Raw Power could be easily underused in most processing tasks where the code can't be split in such a high amount of threads, or where to do so would cost an insame amount of time and coding.

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The fact of the matter is xbox360 is just coming out to early to keep up with ps3 raw power.

The 360 is comming out earlier because of one of the smartest marketing moves in the consoles history. Microsoft aimed to Holidays 2005 no matter what Sony was doing.

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The kieo demo for ps3 had the man face rendered at 1.5 million polygons per sec.

Kameo Renders, In-Game around 1 million polygons in just 1 background. That's without even mentioning the characters on it.

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gears of war can not compare to the mgs4 demo,for one thing gow is not useing real polygons,they are pasted on the polygon mesh to look good because the xbox360 can not render the real polygons in real time.mgs4 used real polygons snake is made up of 3million polygons alone.

To start with, what we've seen in Gears of War is In-Game, not an animation. There's a huge difference between those.

Also, the textures in GOW are way heavier than the ones shown in the MGS4 demo. Before get me into details, you should bring reliable links about the technical details what your talking about, and also stop trying to compare apples with oranges. Gameplay is everything in games.

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just get the point xbox360 is not the next gen....

Ok, where to start...

Did you know that the RSX is just an upgraded version of the current gen G70?

Did you also know that Sony contacted Nvidia too late for them to come up with a revolutionary GPU, just like ATi did for the 360 and they could only upgrade what they already had at works?

You might also want to know that the Cell was first intended to render the graphics, until Sony found out that, oh... It wasn't powerful enough for that.

And also, It'd always be healthy for you to know that Steve Jobs dismissed the Cell to be used in their next Apple Computers generation.

Did you know that ATi's Xenon technology won't be in high end PCs until late 2006?

Did you also know that Nvidia has also announced a technology similar to the one used in the Xenos in their next-gen PCs Videocards? (They once dismissed it, and now they know it is the future)

And the list could go on and on...

Said this, you'll need much stronger arguments and do a bit of your homework before comming here and write such a post.

pApA SmerF01 · 17-10-2005, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dusemike

hdr is not high def rendering its high dienamic range lighting.ps3 can do128bit hdr and360 can only do32bit hdr.im not a ps fanboy i own xbox ps2 gc and soon to get xbox360...

I wish you would check your spelling before you post, because that just makes you even less credible.

The fact that you cling onto the misbelief that playstation 3 is the most powerful out of the next generation consoles without weighing all sides and clinging onto the idea that what sony releases is true; that makes you a fanboy.

You can own all of the consoles in any generation. But the idea that you can't understand that the mgs movie was not in real time and NOT running off of the cell and nVidia processor makes every point in your argument with me moot.

I would've hoped you would get the point that you're not going to win this, and I was nice about it too. I didn't even flame you out, but apparently you are going to continue to pursue all of this against a person who has run code on the 360 and touched it. I understand everything that you apparently don't. You picked the wrong person to continue an argument with my friend.

The ball's in your court, dusemike. Your move.

pApA SmerF01 · 17-10-2005, 04:12 PM

This is like justice league....

Members of the board........UNITE!!!!!

*ensues dramatic hero music*

dusemike · 17-10-2005, 04:28 PM

good argument see you on live xbox360 gamertag DUSEMIKE

DeathDealer · 17-10-2005, 04:29 PM

JUSTICE LEAGUE HO!!!!

Sorry had to do it mates

Æ N I M A 4 6 N 2 · 17-10-2005, 04:31 PM

THERE LIES. Any one can do nice screen shots of panning the camera and close up, but we all know in CG. And plus, I dont want to play a old sneak. I want to play the young snake.

Æ N I M A 4 6 N 2 · 17-10-2005, 04:33 PM

I Call Batman. Na-na Na-na Na-na Na-na Batman Batman Batmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!!!!

Gspark · 17-10-2005, 04:35 PM

most of the games where just movies they werent in game graphics but if it is then there proably lying just like the ps2

DeathDealer · 17-10-2005, 04:35 PM

i want super man! (pathetic 70's stand with hands on hips)

Aquanox · 17-10-2005, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dusemike

hdr is not high def rendering its high dynamic range lighting.ps3 can do128bit hdr and360 can only do32bit hdr.im not a ps fanboy i own xbox ps2 gc and soon to get xbox360...

I'm having a big time trying to figure out how is the PS3 going to perform AA+HDR lightning with only 32Gb/s of bandwidth. Aka. the Ps3 won't be able to perform FSAA + HDR at the same time without suffering a dramatical performance hit.

Just for the Record, the 360 has 256Mb/s to kindly perform that task with hardly a performance hit. (No more than 3% - 5%)

In case you're gonna come up with the "10Mb only argument", I shall also point out that there's a hardware assisted tile-rendering method called 'Predicated Tiling' that is supplied as a library for Xbox 360 in case the 10MB eDRAM is not enough. i.e.: 64bit (FP16 * RGBA) HDR rendering + Z buffer + MRT in 720p.

hmm... Cheers. =)

Æ N I M A 4 6 N 2 · 17-10-2005, 04:40 PM

I Like To Say Batman Begins Was A Awsome Movie, And Every One Should Pick It Up Tomarrow.

dusemike · 17-10-2005, 04:51 PM

ps3 can do hdr and fsaa at the same time.ps3 can render 2k by 1k on a 1080p tv.the cell chip can do the fsaa and the rsx can do the hdr lighting with no performance hit to the system.

GamerGurl79 · 17-10-2005, 05:22 PM

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I liked the Killzone video

as good as the video was i stilled didnt like it.plus i hope you dont think that is how the game looks.especially since it was made before the ps3 crap system was done.if that how it looks before the final dev kit was out i would have to kill myself.you know what i mean

Æ N I M A 4 6 N 2 · 17-10-2005, 05:26 PM

there is no way killzone 2 can be gameplay. It look like a nother CG movie. I looked close in the video, and nothing look like actual gameplay.

TurkeyRap · 17-10-2005, 05:28 PM

PS3 doesnt look good at all to me.

hitmans12thking · 17-10-2005, 05:49 PM

Man Papa Smerfo1 is god he totaly just disseed the ps3 major he deserves 360 gold stars lol...

P Mack · 17-10-2005, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dusemike

hdr is not high def rendering its high dynamic range lighting.ps3 can do128bit hdr and360 can only do32bit hdr.im not a ps fanboy i own xbox ps2 gc and soon to get xbox360...

Your not a PS3 fanboy yet you praise it like God

. I would resort to flamming, but I want to keep the peace. PS3 can do blah blah blah. Sony said the Ps2 could do Toy Story CGI. Its 2005 ummm I have yet to see that. It might as well look like PS1 CGI for all you know. If Sony does deliver on the graphics, you will win. That is like asking a pig if he can do your homework. If you believe all that Sony has said you might as well call yourself a fanboy right now. Show me a real in game footage of a game besides Killzone, MGS4, or anything. I want to see a person controlling the character with my own eyes. I will be waiting for the real proof no fake stuff.

I am Pac Mack hear me roar. lol *calls for other members with mind telepathy*