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Old 09-11-2005, 06:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Preowned games a no-no for the ps3?

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A PATENT may allow Sony to ensure that no game would be playable from any console other than the one in which it was first read.
Joystiq is reporting that this patent is the source of the many rumours that will mean as much to gamers as DRM is for music fans.

The technology would allow an authentication code to be read and then rendered unreadable, making the software unplayable on any machine but the one which first read it.

But this has caused considerable backlash from the gaming community. While many are aware of the double profit companies make on pre-owned games, this would ensure the death of trading games between friends and even going to a friend's house to play a little multiplayer.

No less than Ken Kataguri himself is listed among the inventors, which makes it look like this is a move that came from very high up. It has already been pointed out that many Playstation users have had to replace their console, surely this would leave us high and dry in that event.

While the PS3 hasn't been expressly mentioned in the patent in English or Japanese it would be the obvious place to employ this new technology, regardless of how little gamers will appreciate it. Between this and the DRM scandal, Sony could be looking at a serious drop in interest in the PS3. You can be sure you'll see more on this as it develops. As gamers, we can only hope that modern technology won't undermine the tried and tested barter system.

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Old 09-11-2005, 06:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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PS3 is going down! That really sucks for sony people.
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Old 09-11-2005, 07:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
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that is pretty bad for sony lovers omg what is sony thinking.If ps3 fans think this is good news than they seriouslly need help
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Old 09-11-2005, 09:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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mwahaha the 360 cant fail now
though seriously wat is the point in that??? i trade in all my games if sony did this it would be a stupid mistake
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Old 09-11-2005, 09:21 AM   #5 (permalink)
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All they would be doing is hurting places like EB Games if they can not resell PS3 games and Blockbuster if they can not rent out the PS3 games. They are going nuts. They seriorsly need some help before the higher ups ruin that company. Hey maybe Billy boy Gates has bribed Ken into sabotaging the PS3.
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Old 09-11-2005, 09:30 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Hey maybe Billy boy Gates has bribed Ken into sabotaging the PS3.
lol that's quite funny and so rediculous that it might just be true
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Old 09-11-2005, 09:39 AM   #7 (permalink)
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uhm they misquoted joystiq, while I was about to start laughing I read the site and it actually states "will this be used in the PS3? Not Likely" it then goes on to say its a technology mainly used for possibly Blu Ray movies.

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The latest rumor, generated from several patent sites, claims that Sony has secured a patent for a disk technology that prevents the use of used, as well as pirated, software. From the registered patent description:

”A device and method for protection of legitimate software against used software and counterfeit software in recording media… A specific title code is read, and if this title code has been registered, the main unit shifts to a normal operation. If the code has not been registered, verification software is initiated… If matching does not occur, the disk is processed as illegitimate software… Since only titles for which legitimate software has actually been purchased and which have been initially registered in the machine table can be used, resale (so-called used software purchase) after purchase by an end-user becomes practically impossible.”
Does Sony plan to employ this technology in the PlayStation 3? Not likely. If so, PS3 owners would not be able to rent (used) games or borrow their friends’ games—or even purchase used games! Sure, the technology could be used for Blu-Ray movies, but for games? It just won’t go down like that… right?

[Thanks to everyone that sent this in!]

So while part of me started to laugh I knew it couldn't be true. Sony might be crazy but they aren't complete morons. They know how lucrative a business resellers are with used games and also how viable game rentals are, so sorry I dont believe this one for a minute. And like I said that quote in the first post is incorrect. Just go to the site or read where I quoted it above. Its humorous for sure but honestly guys thats jumping the gun and not even thinking about it with common sense. This is more of a case where people see a small bit of info and then immediately make up tons of possibilities that info could mean. Talk about gamer hysteria lol just mention something like this and they run with it as if it was the gospel haha. Good laugh good laugh
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Old 09-11-2005, 09:50 AM   #8 (permalink)
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this is y im not buying the ps3, to many changed and there trying to much to be different and they wanna make a profit not make sure their consoles fun
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Old 09-11-2005, 11:26 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Well it says that it is unlikely that they will use this technology. It doesn't say they won't use it so who knows they may actually do it.
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Old 09-11-2005, 11:38 AM   #10 (permalink)
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While the technology is certainly interesting, the problems it creates far outweigh the benefits and it will never see large scale consumer deployment.

What happens if your PS3 or Blu-Ray player breaks and I buy another player? Now I can't watch any of my movies? Selling, trading, etc go out the window? The technology would never be mass adopted if this type of limitation was part of the deal.

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Old 09-11-2005, 01:11 PM   #11 (permalink)
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*Sony is falling down. Really this is sort of stupid now. Might as well say goodbye to Sony and see if any company will grab their 3rd party exclusives.
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Old 09-11-2005, 02:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
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This is based on a patent made in 1999 and approved in 2004. Sony would be unwise to use this in the PS3 as it would hurt them more than being beneficial. Imagine if you broke your PS3, had to buy a new one and replenish your entire movie and games library because of it. Or if you wanted to rent a game before buying it? Or if you wanted a game and borrowed it (legitamently) from a friend? No, I cannot see Sony using this technology in the PS3. Do not believe everything you read.
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Old 09-11-2005, 04:35 PM   #13 (permalink)
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sony is not so stupid as to implement this, it would be suicide, no one would be able to rent a ps3 game which means that thousands of games will not be bought by rental stores, people that ussaually rent before they buy would be much more cautious about what they would buy, and for 70 bucks you had better like what you buy seengs how your stuck with it cause no more trade ins. i really doubt it, just a little negative publisity someones putting out to scare sony fans. Which makes me laugh!! heh heh
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Old 11-11-2005, 06:08 PM   #14 (permalink)
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i agree that this whole thing is friggin retarded. but, look at sony's history of pulling crap like this...i am not at all surprised at them looking into this sort of security measure. they seem to be all about proprietary formats--like the time i bought a sony mp3 player...except it doesn't play mp3's; it uses atrac3 with some stupid *** guidelines for how many times i can transfer songs between the player and the pc...stupid sony.

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yeah, this would be suicide for the PS3...so i'm not so sure about them implementing this into the console. but, think about it...would this make sense in any way at all? no f'in way. imagine buying a blu-ray movie that you can watch in your living room, but not your bedroom. Or a CD that you can only play in one particular stereo. What kind of crap is this???
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Old 11-11-2005, 10:32 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Even Preowned PS3 games would end up to be as much as a 360 1st party game from my educated guess.
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of note would be the last 2 days with sony taking heat for that music CD copyright software they put on and have now announced they have suspended using as they discovered it was basically like spyware and allowed peoples comps to be hijacked. So with all that flack I'd say that just is the icing on the cake of reasons they wouldn't do this now.
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