Why isn't MS critisising Nintendo?

sandstorm · 19-04-2006, 02:08 PM

All the flames that MS is throwing at the moment is at Sony. This might be obvious as Sony are their main rivals.

However, their is another theory:

First there are a few points to note:

Microsoft is known to team-up, defeat, break-friends and take lead - so to speak. Yahoo provided search results for MSN while MS was working on its own search technology. When MS's search engine was made, they dumped Yahoo. (however, they've yet to take the lead from Google)

Another point to note is the supposed 're-launch' of the 360 in Japan - note its rumoured for June. MS also knows, that no matter which games they make for the Japanese market, the 360 is a failure (in Japan) and a failed re-launch will only add more stigmatism towards MS not only from the Japanese but from others (a la Windows ME - which they managed to cover up very nicely with XP... urm XP SP2).

Now, lets look at what Nintendo have been saying:

Firstly: Nintendo is still full of surprises
What could this be? Everyone knows about their 'revolutionary' controller. But what else could a console which is not much more powerful than the original Xbox (according to rumours) have under it's belt?

Secondly: Nintendo will be a secondary console in most homes
I see where they are coming from, however, which other console would they prefer there little box to be sitting next to?

With the above in mind, what if MS announces at E3 that their 'HD addon' is in fact the revolution due in June to coincide with the Xbox 360's Japanese re-launch. Also, that the Xbox 360 can upscale revolution games to 720p?

Lets take it in turns to see what each company has to gain.

Nintendo has the following to gain:
Games will be upscaled / natively in 720p -> direct competition with the PS3.
Xbox 360 owners would be more tempted by purchasing the 'cheap' but HD revolution.
MS pays for the slim laptop-style HD-DVD drive (and in-turn saves big time on packaging costs, distribution etc.)

MS has the following to gain:
Low-cost (for MS) HD-DVD addon to the Xbox 360.
Xbox 360 would be the preferred option for those who only bought the revolution out of the 3 next-gen consoles.
A strong foothold in JAPAN.
Possible use of the revolution controller in the 360's games.

Also, imagine playing the new Rockstar TableTennis game on the 360 controller (yuck)

What do you guys think?

Wingman1977 · 19-04-2006, 02:12 PM

Nintendo has publicly stated that they are not pushing the Revolution to compete with MS and Sony. They are also not supporting HD. Like you stated in your post, the Revolution is nowhere near as powerful as the 360 is and the PS3 is allegedly to be. Nintendo is pushing thier console to be second console in a household.

KH0RNE · 19-04-2006, 02:14 PM

Wtf?....let me get this right, are you sugsting that the revo might be a addon to the 360?

Wingman1977 · 19-04-2006, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KH0RNE

Wtf?....let me get this right, are you sugsting that the revo might be a addon to the 360?

No, to have it as a second console. Not a add on to any console.

sandstorm · 19-04-2006, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KH0RNE

Wtf?....let me get this right, are you sugsting that the revo might be a addon to the 360?

Yes, an addon which works independently as well. Sort of like how the xbox 360 manages to upscale xbox 1 games through emulation.

Jay2984 · 19-04-2006, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sandstorm

Yes, an addon which works independently as well. Sort of like how the xbox 360 manages to upscale xbox 1 games through emulation.

With all due respect...Thats the craziest thing Ive ever heard LOL... Nintendo is its own company with its own great ideas. The last thing they would ever want is to be in the pocket of a company like MS. I dont think we will be seeing the Revo as an add-on to anything in the near future unless Nin starts going under and MS buys them but I dont see that happening either.

Wingman1977 · 19-04-2006, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sandstorm

Yes, an addon which works independently as well. Sort of like how the xbox 360 manages to upscale xbox 1 games through emulation.

Whatever it is that your taking, you might want to stop taking it.

Fanta · 19-04-2006, 03:02 PM

Um..i doubt nintendo will do that lol, especially the develepors making a game suitable for two controllers it would take twice the time.

Don_Rico · 19-04-2006, 03:07 PM

I would've been cool though.

Shotty · 19-04-2006, 03:36 PM

Why would MS bash Nintendo, they have no reason to. Does BMW bash Toyota no because they are in different markets. And maybe MS is planing a secret take over of Nintendo and it will be announced at E3.

NVR 20 · 19-04-2006, 04:03 PM

theres no way the revolutioin will be an add on but i think since the price will probobly be cheap then it will be a success as a secondary console.

korphaeron · 19-04-2006, 05:16 PM

Why criticise those lower than you when you can bad mouth the main opposition?

Gameman54 · 19-04-2006, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandstorm

All the flames that MS is throwing at the moment is at Sony. This might be obvious as Sony are their main rivals.

However, their is another theory:

First there are a few points to note:

Microsoft is known to team-up, defeat, break-friends and take lead - so to speak. Yahoo provided search results for MSN while MS was working on its own search technology. When MS's search engine was made, they dumped Yahoo. (however, they've yet to take the lead from Google)

Another point to note is the supposed 're-launch' of the 360 in Japan - note its rumoured for June. MS also knows, that no matter which games they make for the Japanese market, the 360 is a failure (in Japan) and a failed re-launch will only add more stigmatism towards MS not only from the Japanese but from others (a la Windows ME - which they managed to cover up very nicely with XP... urm XP SP2).

Now, lets look at what Nintendo have been saying:

Firstly: Nintendo is still full of surprises
What could this be? Everyone knows about their 'revolutionary' controller. But what else could a console which is not much more powerful than the original Xbox (according to rumours) have under it's belt?

Secondly: Nintendo will be a secondary console in most homes
I see where they are coming from, however, which other console would they prefer there little box to be sitting next to?

With the above in mind, what if MS announces at E3 that their 'HD addon' is in fact the revolution due in June to coincide with the Xbox 360's Japanese re-launch. Also, that the Xbox 360 can upscale revolution games to 720p?

Lets take it in turns to see what each company has to gain.

Nintendo has the following to gain:
Games will be upscaled / natively in 720p -> direct competition with the PS3.
Xbox 360 owners would be more tempted by purchasing the 'cheap' but HD revolution.
MS pays for the slim laptop-style HD-DVD drive (and in-turn saves big time on packaging costs, distribution etc.)

MS has the following to gain:
Low-cost (for MS) HD-DVD addon to the Xbox 360.
Xbox 360 would be the preferred option for those who only bought the revolution out of the 3 next-gen consoles.
A strong foothold in JAPAN.
Possible use of the revolution controller in the 360's games.

Also, imagine playing the new Rockstar TableTennis game on the 360 controller (yuck)

What do you guys think?

Dude, what the heck? You must've been writing for like 10 min.

ChuckSteak0331 · 19-04-2006, 05:23 PM

Uuuuhh.. Not ADD ON but the SECOND console in the household. Wow. Read read read!

citizen X · 19-04-2006, 06:08 PM

ok..to be honest i respect ur idea. and think if..and its a bigIf. MS buys out Big N..MS would be playing a monopoly ..and i doubt they would do that..not saying its not possible. hell anything is possible...and if what u say goes threw ..a lot of people will owe u a apology.. and ill come out and say it..i think the idea is probably the coolest idea I ever heard about the gaming industry..

Jeet · 19-04-2006, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by citizen X

ok..to be honest i respect ur idea. and think if..and its a bigIf. MS buys out Big N..MS would be playing a monopoly ...

not that thats ever happened before.....

sandstorm · 20-04-2006, 04:51 AM

I'm not saying that MS has bought / will buy Nintendo. The theory suggests that they will be two companies helping eachother out.

The Revolution would work on its own as the revolution. The 360 would work on its own... as the 360. But two of them could team up. ie this addon which MS wants to release in 2006 could be incorporated into the revolution, seen as though all the addon is, that MS is promising, is a HD-DVD drive (not a HD-DVD player, your 360 will be the player).

Quote from Chris Lewis

Quote:

Lewis: All I can say to you is -- there are interesting developments in the pipeline. We will make sure that the HD-DVD-peripheral device will meet all the requirements for consumers to enjoy high-definition DVD playback.

Notice he doesn't say "We will make sure that the HD-DVD drive" . He says "peripheral device".

Just food for thought.

Gameman54 · 20-04-2006, 05:44 AM

Nice put Sandstorm.

FordGTGuy · 20-04-2006, 03:19 PM

Microsoft isn't recieving any threats or any anti-360 from Nintendo so why critisize them? Why would a money making company spend money making advertisements to go against nintendo when there isn't a point to do it?

Nintendo would never make themselves look like an add-on. Microsoft doesn't need nintendo to have a hd-dvd drive.

Gamerkid360 · 20-04-2006, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FordGTGuy

Microsoft isn't recieving any threats or any anti-360 from Nintendo so why critisize them? Why would a money making company spend money making advertisements to go against nintendo when there isn't a point to do it?

Nintendo would never make themselves look like an add-on. Microsoft doesn't need nintendo to have a hd-dvd drive.

are you saving up for a Ford GT FordGTGuy?