Adapter - No automatic start up connection

balchers · 04-07-2008, 04:10 PM

Hi,

Can anyone help me on the following please?

I am using the official wireless adapter which connects to live through my netgear DG834GT wireless router.

It is set up properly; the NAT / ports are fully open, WPA proteted, I can see the nework SSID name on the xbox and it is all enabled / allowed through my router. The router is pretty close to the xbox, about 2 feet away - so i dont think its a connection loss issue! The lights work as they should on the back of the wireless adapter.

Whenever i am on live it works well on games, downloads and i can stream files from my pc with no problems - with only a bit of lag now and then.

But i have a minor problem, which is doing my head in!!!

Whenever i start my console it loads up my profile (i have two other family ones as well) but it never automatically connects to live - unless i click the button below my gamertag? So if anyone knows how to get this to connect during the start up i would love to know!!

To try and resolve it i have tried:

Turning on and off auto sign in.
Deleted and re-set up my router settings on the xbox.
Removing the xbox hard drive and trying it without it inserted.
Clearing the cache.

But nothing makes it work?

I have also tried using the wired connection as a test and this connects to live as soon as my profile is loaded?

I am starting to wonder if the wireless bridge is only supposed to work this way and not automatically? i have put up with this for about 2 years and was not bothered until i saw my brothers wired connection start automatically at boot up!!

I know its sounds mad but i dont want to use the wired connection.

All the best and thanks in advance,

Balchers

rabbitc · 05-07-2008, 04:32 AM

Balchers - if you are getting connections - messing with router settings and clearing the cache is pointless - it works, don't mess with it.

As far as the automatic connection - stupid point but make sure your console is set to connect automatically.

Furthermore - unlike wired connections that take seconds, wireless connections can sometimes take up to a minute to establish depending on interference and signal strength. You might try changing channels on your router - for instance, if it's set high, try channel 1 or 2 - if it's low, try 10 or 11...(whatever is legal in your area) and see if this helps establish.

Finally - I recommend using DHCP if you aren't already and ensure you're using WPA-TKIP authentication with a password that contains symbols as well as letters and numbers. Also - you may want to check that your router is broadcasting the SID as I've noticed that consoles really seem to struggle if SID broadcasting is off. This isn't as secure, but then again - a strong WPA password will unlikely ever be hacked unless you've used your cat's name as the password or something equally stupid.

Good luck!

rabbitc · 06-07-2008, 03:30 AM

you're welcome.

06-07-2008, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rabbitc

you're welcome.

You probably scared him off when you started talking like C3PO towards the end of your post.

06-07-2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir Charles

You probably scared him off when you started talking like C3PO towards the end of your post.

snaps

ElderScroller27 · 07-07-2008, 03:05 AM

I'm thinking that if you have a password set on your 360 to log into an account it may be whats hagning you up, so instead of automaticaly logging on to live it pauses and waits for the password to be entered?

balchers · 07-07-2008, 02:28 PM

Hi,

I have been away for a few days - so i appreciate your help and i am sorry for not getting back sooner!

rabbitc; i tried those items as per the instructions of the Microsoft support team via the phone - I was just trying to maximise my sourcing of information! But you were right, it did nothing more than clear all my game updates; Which i now have to re-download, but thats no big deal.

After reading your post i decided to have a closer look at my router settings and noticed that broadcasting my SSID was turned off. So, i took your advice and turned it it.......to which my Xbox now logs into live automatically and pretty fast too (and yes automatic log in was already enabled!).

Anyway, thanks for your advice.....now here is mine! Never spend a full 3days doing DIY jobs around the home and then go to work the following day - it totally fu@king knackers you out!

Cheers,

balchers

rabbitc · 07-07-2008, 03:03 PM

bingo - good to hear, balchers. I'll keep your advice in tow as well

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You probably scared him off when you started talking like C3PO towards the end of your post.

That's called 'technical support', Charles - that's what people sound like when they are talking 'technically'...and as you can see, this is how we arrive at solutions.

balchers · 08-07-2008, 02:50 AM

No problem, i appreciate your help.

I did start to worry though as after the cache clearance one particular game (Bully) started to freeze almost every time. Whereas before it didnt freeze at all - i must of updated it the very first time i inserted the disc. With this i thought that my XBox was on its "way out". But i then realised that clearing the cache also removed all the updates. I have updated the game, but have yet to try it out - so hopefully it will be ok?.....

I am at work at the minute and having a sneaky surf, so if i dont reply straight away please forgive me:

You seem pretty clued up on the technical side.....but i have another problem:

My disc tray gets stuck when it is trying to close regardless if the xbox has been on for hours or within minutes of it being turned on. Its happens quite regulary. To overcome it i have to gently pull the tray, which it moves outwards slightly. Then i pick close and it closes, but if i pick open again it sometimes gets stuck? Maybe it is a bit loose on the gears?? It is a launch console.

If you have any advice on how to fix this then i would be gratefull.

Thank you.

balchers

rabbitc · 08-07-2008, 02:58 AM

hi balchers - the disc tray problem is a different matter entirely - sounds to me like the drive tray is warped somehow (probably from heat over time)...

Unfortunately - the only way to really fix that is to replace the drive.
This is something you can do yourself (apparently) but it's nothing I've attempted personally.

Having said that - if you are able to overcome the problem for the time being, my advice is to live with it provided it's still playing games.

Sorry I didn't have a better answer for you.

balchers · 08-07-2008, 11:29 AM

Hi rabbitc

Thanks for the advice. I think you are right as it works and is best left alone!

Sorry to pester you again by going back to my connection issue:

I was thinking today of removing the wireless bridge so that i could use the usb port for my xbox camera. At the minute the camera wires are around the front and are a bit messy. Therefore i would have to use a wired connection:

When i tried the wired connection last week i noticed that the SSID was not listed in the xbox connection area - where it says "link" and "act". This was happening even though i was on live and once again i had a good connection. Is this normal for it not to be listed or is there something i need to do? Note that when i tried this, my router was not broadcasting its SSID and WPA security was on. Am i also right in saying that a wired connection will not be able to stream files from my pc?

Thanks once again.

balchers

rabbitc · 08-07-2008, 02:06 PM

hi balchers,

there is no difference between a wired and wireless connection once the connection is established. The SID is specific only to the wireless - so it is quite possible to see no reference to it yet be connected through the wire. Completely normal.

Main thing is - if you're not using the wireless connection, turn it off at the router for safety.

Most importantly - always ALWAYS ensure WPA is enabled and encoded with a complicated password as I described earlier even if you're not using the wireless at the time. I recommend TKIP.

The streaming will work through both wired and wireless - although it is more consistent through wired as a general rule.

balchers · 09-07-2008, 04:37 PM

Hi rabbitc,

Thanks for the advice once again,

If i have time this weekend i hope to change the connection to wireless and thus sort out my "rats nest" of wires!

I have also turned off my broadcast SSID tonight and made sure that my WPA password is set (PSK). I previoulsy followed a tutorial on setting up my wireless connection for a fully open NAT. So i have a feeling i might have to do this for the wired connection as well - if i disable the wireless connection?

All the best,

balchers

rabbitc · 10-07-2008, 03:06 AM

Balchers - the NAT applies to both wireless and wired - there is no distinction.
There may be additional trusted device controls for the wireless connection - but other than that, the rules apply to everything regardless of how it's connected.

The only thing that NAT does is assign a block of internal IP addresses so that you can connect multiple devices to your Internet connection. If you have DHCP enabled - NAT addresses are given out automatically.

The only thing you need to worry about is to ensure that appropriate ports for Xbox live are forwarded to your Xbox's NAT IP - if your gateway/router is 'Xbox Live approved' then this is probably done automatically as well.

I presume your NAT test is showing as 'open' on the Xbox 360?

balchers · 11-07-2008, 01:58 PM

Hi rabbitc,

Thanks once again,

I have checked my router settings and DHCP is set to on. I also think my router is Xbox live certified - it is a Netgear DG834GT.

The Nat set up for my xbox relates to its mac address, so when i connect with a wire does this mean it will recognise this automaticlly?

I am not sure that i will get time to sort this out at the weekend now - I have got more DIY stuff to do, its never ending!!

All the best,

balchers

rabbitc · 13-07-2008, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by balchers

Hi rabbitc,

The Nat set up for my xbox relates to its mac address, so when i connect with a wire does this mean it will recognise this automaticlly?

That is correct - in this case, your router has the ability to recognize your X360 regardless of how it has established a connection (wired or wireless) or the local IP that has been assigned.

If you are experiencing free connections to XBL, it sounds as though your router is designed to automatically forward the correct ports to your xbox regardless of where it is on the network.