I have many Questions.

SimplyFresh · 26-08-2005, 02:04 PM

I've read many posts from previous forums and I am very impressed by the knowleged you all posses. But I have a few simply questions that need to be answered.

1. Overall, is the Xbox 360 more powerful than the PS3?

2. Considering the PS3 Specs, why is it that Xbox 360 still manages to be better than PS3?

3. This is regarding the games -- Will Xbox 360 have more and better games than the PS3?

4. This is regarding the PS3 and Xbox 360 GPU's and CPU's -- I read in previous forums that the Xbox 360 Processor is much better than PS3's Cell Processor, why's that? Also, I hear that PS3's RSX Processor is the most powerful GPU, how is it that Xbox 360's ATI Custom GPU is still better?

5. Will we ever see games use %100 of Xbox 360's complete full power?

6. Will PS3 ever be able to utilize %100 of its power?

SimplyFresh · 26-08-2005, 02:09 PM

I forgot one more question...

7. Will A.I. be more advanced on the Xbox 360 than it is on the original consoles like GC, Xbox, and PS2?

pApA SmerF01 · 26-08-2005, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SimplyFresh

I've read many posts from previous forums and I am very impressed by the knowleged you all posses. But I have a few simply questions that need to be answered.

1. Overall, is the Xbox 360 more powerful than the PS3?

2. Considering the PS3 Specs, why is it that Xbox 360 still manages to be better than PS3?

3. This is regarding the games -- Will Xbox 360 have more and better games than the PS3?

4. This is regarding the PS3 and Xbox 360 GPU's and CPU's -- I read in previous forums that the Xbox 360 Processor is much better than PS3's Cell Processor, why's that? Also, I hear that PS3's RSX Processor is the most powerful GPU, how is it that Xbox 360's ATI Custom GPU is still better?

5. Will we ever see games use %100 of Xbox 360's complete full power?

6. Will PS3 ever be able to utilize %100 of its power?

1. it depends on opinion. in my opinion, the 360 is slightly more powerful in its gpu and cpu, but just slightly.

2. there's too much stuff, it's overpriced, and they've really hurt their ability to adapt to future changes.

3. so far, nothing ps3 could throw out could compete with the launch lineup for the 360.

4. they're different sides of the coin. one pumps out massive amounts of shader ops (xenos) while the other works more on decoding and point-to-point transfers (rsx).

if you want to look for efficiency and quality, the xenos processor is yours. if you want to look for pure clock speed, the rsx is yours.

5. yes, maybe in the 4th or 5th gen of games.

6. not likely. it's too hard to develop for in the 4-6 year lifespan of the console to ever reach that number.

7. the AI is much more advanced. imagine thousands of characters with their own thought processes. yeah, it's going to be better, much better.

SimplyFresh · 26-08-2005, 02:16 PM

OKAY NEVER MIND! I re-read all the previous threads and I KNEW IT! Xbox 360 will be more powerful than PS3.

But! Can you guys answer these questions anyway but in a fashionable order... I want to post it on another website so i could make the PS3 fanboys cry and make them speechless.

pApA SmerF01 · 26-08-2005, 02:17 PM

i answered them, look up...

SimplyFresh · 26-08-2005, 02:20 PM

Yo papa... regarding the GPU's, which is better efficiency and quality or the pure clock speed?

SimplyFresh · 26-08-2005, 02:24 PM

Hey Papa... sorry to ask you of this but could you PLEASE write an article comparing PS3 and 360 CPU's, comparing the GPU's and then comparing various other things like band-width and all that other graphic and speed stuff. I want to put it up on this site called www.1up.com so PS3 fanboys could stop bitching and bragging about the PS3.

Dragonx420 · 26-08-2005, 02:41 PM

dude just tell it is going to suck wind because xbox will be king (i mean IS KING) because sony has been falling in making games the only 2 good games on PLAYSTATION is god of war and gt4 thats it and look at xbox i cant even name them all because there r so many GOOD TITLES......

pApA SmerF01 · 26-08-2005, 02:46 PM

yeah, fine. i'll get some of my friends to help, this isn't exactly the easiest of articles you know. it might take a little while.

also if you post it onto 1up, if you could provide a link to here that'd be great.

SimplyFresh · 26-08-2005, 02:52 PM

ok sure... I will.

Dragonx420 -- those PS3 fanboys never listen man!

pApA SmerF01 · 26-08-2005, 03:14 PM

actually, here's a link to a much better comparison.

it's non biased and it leaves you to your own conclusion.

LINK

citizen X · 26-08-2005, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pApA SmerF01

actually, here's a link to a much better comparison.

it's non biased and it leaves you to your own conclusion.

LINK

Good job Papa I’m really not in the mood, its way to much work right now and this article compares all those hardware categories so we don’t need too.

I could do it, but just like u Papa, I’m too lazy.

SimplyFresh · 26-08-2005, 04:49 PM

ok.. thanks for the help!

RSFlux · 26-08-2005, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SimplyFresh

I've read many posts from previous forums and I am very impressed by the knowleged you all posses. But I have a few simply questions that need to be answered.

1. Overall, is the Xbox 360 more powerful than the PS3?

2. Considering the PS3 Specs, why is it that Xbox 360 still manages to be better than PS3?

3. This is regarding the games -- Will Xbox 360 have more and better games than the PS3?

4. This is regarding the PS3 and Xbox 360 GPU's and CPU's -- I read in previous forums that the Xbox 360 Processor is much better than PS3's Cell Processor, why's that? Also, I hear that PS3's RSX Processor is the most powerful GPU, how is it that Xbox 360's ATI Custom GPU is still better?

5. Will we ever see games use %100 of Xbox 360's complete full power?

6. Will PS3 ever be able to utilize %100 of its power?

Careful asking for answers like these on an XBox website

I'll try to be as unbiased as possble.

1) It depends upon what you mean by more powerful. This has been the subject of all sorts of debates since specs for both consoles were released. The general consensus right now (keep in mind that this is all based upon what the marketing departments of both companies have released about their consoles) is that PS3 will be able to crunch more numbers a second. So if that's your only criteria, then PS3 is more powerful. But the 360 has a lot of things that help it perform well other than pure FLOPS performance. So to answer your question, until games come out, this question is unanswerable.

2) How can you say that the 360 is better than the PS3? There's been almost no gameplay shown of the 360, and virtually none on the PS3. Let alone having played the games personally. Until both systems are in your hands, I'd reserve judgement about which is "better". It's just speculation until then (or fanboyism)

3) Depends upon your taste in games. PS3 will almost unquestionably have MORE games, as they have the least regulations about their developers and always have had the highest volume of games produced. This does not directly corrilate to quality though. I spend almost all of my time playing XBox (lots of Halo 2

). But to everyone their own. My roommate spends most of his time playing GT4. What is important is that BOTH companies have strong lineups...you can't look at either console and say "I'm not getting that because there aren't any good games".

4) Again, they are very difficult to compare without having people that develop for them saying how each performs. But on paper, I feel that the PS3 has the more powerful processor, while the XBox 360 has the (slightly) more powerful graphical subsystem (I think the embedded framebuffer ram gives the XBox an edge). There's lots of info on this in these boards, so take a look.

5) Seeing as how I don't believe 100% of the XBox's power has been used so far, I HIGHLY doubt 100% of the potential of the 360 will be used (same goes for the PS3). It's mostly a time and money issue. It's easy to make the hardware run at 100% by throwing more geometry and effects at it until you are utilizing all the hardware all the time. But to use it all efficiently is the key. There are plenty of games with mediocre graphics that have framerate troubles while other games with stellar graphics run without a hitch. To invest the amount of time and money it would take to optimize a game's engine to run at "100%" of what is possible would be nearly impossible.

6) Same

7) In a word, yes. For the lazy developers, this will probably mean putting more enemies on screen running the same type of AI running on the last gen systems. For the good developers, this means that enemies will be able to consider more options, think furthar ahead and perhaps even start to implement less scripted AI. But overall, this should be one of the top areas of improvement with the next gen systems.

~Flux

Sfx7 · 27-08-2005, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SimplyFresh

Hey Papa... sorry to ask you of this but could you PLEASE write an article comparing PS3 and 360 CPU's, comparing the GPU's and then comparing various other things like band-width and all that other graphic and speed stuff. I want to put it up on this site called www.1up.com so PS3 fanboys could stop bitching and bragging about the PS3.

Most of this has been covered in xtreme depth on arstechnica.com. Click on articles and there is a 2 part piece on the xenon cpu and gpu with some interesting comparisons to the cell.